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Discuss different approaches to quitting, including medication

TAN88
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Can I chew the gum and use lozenges at the same time?

Is it ok for me to take the Lozenge and the Nicotine Gum there name brand the Lozenge alone it's working in I don't think my Doctor really understand my situation are can I take to lozenge at the same time I keep stopping in staring I need some advice in what would you recommend in am not going to make my quitting date please help

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Barbara145
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I think using the patch with the lozenge would be a better plan.  You can safely use 2 forms of nicotine . Only use 2 forms if needed.  You will only know that after you have quit completely.  Congratulations on your decision to quit smoking.

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YoungAtHeart
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Welcome!

The first thing you need to do is determine the amount of nicotine you are getting before you quit, and adjust the NRT to that level.  Each cigarette contains about 1 mg of nicotine, so, for instance, if you are smoking a pack a day now, you would want to use an NRT of 20 mg.  Also, you should not be using an NRT while you are still smoking or you can easily get a higher dose of nicotine,  thus have withdrawal at a more difficult level, not to mention its effect on your body.  It feels like you might be doing battle without a plan.  If you do the reading I will recommend, you can start this effort better informed.

The important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.”    You can search for it online or at your local library.  Here is a video to inform you further about nicotine addiction:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort after you have tried to delay and distract.   I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  You need to start out with a plan to reduce use of them over time - which the patch does by decreasing the dose contained in them..  For the gum, you can start by cutting each piece in half, then in quarters, then sub regular gum of the same flavor in between, adding more and more regular gum.  For the lozenge, you need to start subbing a mint in between to begin, increasing the number of them over time. I do not recommend the e-cigarette for obvious reasons.

It will be informative if you do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site. As you track each cigarette smoked, note its importance, and what you might do instead. Put each one off just a little to prove that you don't NEED a cigarette just because you think you do.
 

The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit.  If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! .  Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.
 
You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Keep a cold bottle of water with you. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. You might visit “Games”: The active ones are at the top of the list going down the left side of the page. We have a weekly Trivia Contest you might like to try, too, that is listed there.

Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:

https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...

The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!

Nancy

 

I vote for the patch alone. In my opinion when you are self dosing with lozenges or gum you are connecting to the same thoughts as you would if you were reaching for a cigarette. The establishment doesn't tell you that people who use nicotine aids FAIL at the same rate as those who didn't use them. They'll tell you to use more and use them longer. But don't listen to me, I haven't been using nicotine aids to stay quit from the time I quit smoking.

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Giulia
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Lozenge, gum.... you can take both but I think you're missing the point.  At least from my long-term quit perspective.  (Been quit 15 years.)  Neither will ultimately set you free.  First you have to understand the nature of this addiction (and really, it is much more than a bad habit).  We may not want to call it an addiction, but when I think of myself and when I had no more cigarettes left in the pack at bedtime and HAD to go out to the store to buy another pack so I could be "comfortable" with my first cup of coffee in the morning.. that's... more than just a bad habit.  A bad habit was when I bit my nails down to the nub.  

If you're not going to be making your quit date - for whatever reason - then stop - take the pressure off  yourself, and really just sit back and think about what it is you want, what it is you are willing to sacrifice (and - sorry, but quitting for me anyway - took sacrifice) and ...  examine whatever excuses  you might make.  UNDERSTANDING EXCUSES 

NRTs like gum and patches certainly HELP ease the pain.  But they don't ultimately solve the thing you really want solved.  And that is cravings.  Sorry.  But they don't.  

The two main questions I think we all need to ask ourselves when we enter into this quitting journey are:   Am I willing to do anything it takes and How long am I willing to put up with cravings.

In my experiences unless you can say to yourself "No matter how long it takes, I'm in this thing - no matter what" - you won't have a successful, long-term quit.  You simply have to agree to those terms.  Haven't found anyone yet who said otherwise and a had a long-term quit.

But don't be discouraged.  Do you want this thing?  Do you want to be free?  Then you can be.  No matter what any doctor says.  You know YOU better than anybody else, right?  Trust your instincts.   And if you don't make your quit date - then sit back, read, learn some more and set a new quit date when you think you've had enough knowledge to be brave and steadfast enough to make the kind of commitment you know will be necessary.  It takes us a while to understand what's necessary for the journey.  You know?