Troubled💖

[indingrl]

I am really trying hard to learn - now on blog I did for @SuzyQ411  bday blog I did my comments disappeared and I commented other people blogs and my graphics disappeared - this adjustment of my attiutde is hard - I complimented @CommunityAdmin  on @SuzyQ411  bdsy blog I wrote and it disappeared - thanks for letting me VENT😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😞😞😞😞😞💔💔💔👍 I do not like this NEW yet I keep trying @CommunityAdmin  which he taught me us @ and I thanked him and it disappeared😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[sweetplt]

@indingrl so happy you came here and vented your freezings...I lost a comment tonight under your post...not sure where it went...”puff”...in cyber space...hoping this will get better for all of us...Colleen 

[indingrl]

Thanks for responding to my blog because I was feeling retaliated against because I am Christ Jesus and @CommunityAdmin  said for me to go to the group spirtual and faith group and I did and NO one is there so I came back to blogs because I am a LONG time member and I thought my blogs were censorshiping or discriminating me cause I talk about My Hod and Lord Jesus and Holy Spirit 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💖💖💖feeling really unappreciated Colleen everyone else is free to blog and arent TOLD to join a group of ONE 😢thanks for listening👍

[Bonnie]

Diane JOy I love your blog posts they lift me up and I am sorry things are disappearing for some reason. I hope you continue to post in your blog and not in a specific group. I never found the groups that active anyway except for the prayer group :). Love you!!! Xo

[CommunityAdmin]

@indingrl 

Please look at Solved: On the birthday post to SuzyQ you somehow edited m... - EX Community  which provides some explanation on what happened and has some questions to help troubleshoot.

I'm sorry you feel retaliated, censored and discriminated against. That is not what the EX Community is about. Feedback from a variety of channels over the course of a couple years has lead to the most recent updates in community guideline updates. The community guidelines change periodically to ensure that the site stays a place that is comfortable and safe for all. All members need to adjust to the new guidelines when they're updated to ensure that they are compliant and can continue posting.

As mentioned in the updated guidelines, we recognize someone's personal beliefs can be an important part of their quit journey and we feel that for that reason there should be a place on the community for people to post content that includes such beliefs no matter your affiliations. This change affects members other than yourself as we consolidated several groups into one. Prohibiting contributions to the site that included personal beliefs was never an option for me so that is why things evolved into Faith & Spirituality - EX Community . It is a closed group so that the posts do not appear on the home page however anyone who wants to incorporate it into their quit can request to join the group and they will be added. Then you will see updates on the home page once you're a member of the group. The groups we consolidated from didn't have "members", only followers as it wasn't something that existed on Jive so there wasn't anything to migrate to the new community for membership, otherwise people would be many members.  I do encourage you to post in there. Mention people who posted in there previously and invite them to join. The group can be lively. If you see someone posting on the main boards that mention personal beliefs as part of their quit journey, warmly welcome to check out the Faith & Spirituality - EX Community 

All communities get updates to their guidelines periodically to ensure that the guidelines protect the community at-large. These decisions are not taken lightly. Because politics were causing discord on the site we made some updates to the guidelines that no longer permits discussions about politics.

Thank you for being a long-time member. I recognize that you had many past Journal / Blogs Articles that contained content that celebrated your Christianity as part of your Quit Journey. Those past posts would have been migrated to the new community in Journals / Blogs - EX Community as they were done so before the guideline changes however It appears that you deleted many Journal / Blog Articles from your Personal Blog and the Conversations area prior to the move. As a result, those Journal / Blog Articles and their associated comments were lost. I was sad to have seen that. I had sent you a message asking what happened but never received a reply. 

@sweetplt I'd be glad to try to find out what happened. Please post in Community Help Discussions - EX Community 

@Bonnie I encourage you to join and post there if that helps you. Groups can be active. The Games, Picture Sharing, COPD, Exercise and Health and many more groups were active because members frequented them and posted. The groups that weren't active or had valuable content but were feeling hidden had the content moved to Support - EX Community,  Quitting Methods - EX Community, Health Conditions - EX Community and Best of EX - EX Community 

[sweetplt]

Diane Joy @indingrl This is the way of the world...we are not allowed to mention God especially on social media...yet people can be so hateful and it is accepted...Like Bonnie said, your posts always lift me up and make me that much better everyday....but I see not only the site has changed, but censorship has really upped it’s anti...You keep loving and you keep inspiring with your posts...I am not joining the faith group because I have so many wonderful people in my 3D world to share with and talk about God...I am here to help quitters and me stay quit...I am sorry that so many complain about good things ... lifting you up ... xoxoxoxoxox Colleen 

[sweetplt]

@CommunityAdmin I found my content ... it was under Happy Birthday to SuzyQ and Strudel...so many different posts for same birthday and I couldn’t see who got back to me...anyways, it is all good...~ Colleen 

[DavesTime]

Diane Joy, we are all confused and frustrated by the change, but please know that I and many others here are grateful for you and your posts.  Thank you for being you! God bless!

[Giulia]

I just wrote a whole response and it's gone.  Kind of like I think what you just went through!  lol

I will begin again.  I think I understand the point in the Community Guidelines  that state:  "Coming on too strong about your opinions or beliefs can be offensive to others. Faith and spirituality are an important part of quitting for some people, but not for everyone."

No everyone believes in Jesus Christ.  Atheists, for example, are often rather hostile to his mention.  And not just Atheists.   It's one thing to say that our faith has helped us to quit or helps us maintain our quits, but when it becomes a major part of our communication in a blog, then it might make others feel uncomfortable.  You are a great disciple, and you want to shout to the rooftops your love and thanks for Him and the JOY for all he does in your life in full caps.  Understandable -  he's the center of your heart.  But it can come across a bit like proselytizing at times, I think.  And that can be off-puffing to new members joining.  And none of us wants any new member to be dissuaded from joining and hanging out with us. It's not that we can't mention God and Jesus, I think it has to do more with the tone and avidity with which we do so.  Faith can also be a very intensely quiet thing, you know?  

I hope you don't mind my offering my "take" on this.  Just trying to point out a different perspective.  There is no offense meant.  I assume you know that because you know me.  And you know that I am always on your team and will always speak my truth with love. ♥

[sweetplt]

Ms G @Giulia you have a heart of gold...and said it Purfffecttt...

wishing you a Happy Friday....Colleen 

[Bonnie]

I don't know what comment I'm commenting on but I do want to say that the new "closed group" "guideline" rubs me the wrong way. Just sayin'...

[Giulia]

When you kill the community by it's free ability to communicate - you kill the site.  When you narrow the parameters to fit your metrics, you kill the community.  When you force labels and groups and tagging (to make it easier to find content, which none of us can currently find) ... you set up that very thing that most of us don't like in our lives.  We don't want to be tagged and labeled and put into groups.  Well, obviously there are many who DO (otherwise we wouldn't have "special interest" groups) but... I'd better shut up.  MOO.  Let's just say I understand, Bonnie, why it rubs you the wrong way.  It does me too, for all it's good intentions.  I understand how it can protect members from being abused by people who are narrow minded and nasty...   So it has some benefits.  But ANYBODY can join a closed group - you just have to ask "permission" now because well - that's our NEW AND IMPROVED? platform change!

And "I don't know what comment I'm commenting on" - yup, I don't know what comment I'm commenting on either.  Welcome to the club!  And just in case you can't even see this comment,  I'll "at" mention you in the process @Bonnie  The title of this blog by Diane Joy is "Troubled."  May I say everything right now on this site is troubling to me.  MOO.  

[Barbscloud]

I don't think the intent here was to ban someone with religious beliefs, but I don't hold those beliefs and have had to ignore many posts. "Not everyone believes in Jesus Christ.  Atheists, for example, are often rather hostile to his mention.  And not just Atheists."  I do not fall into this category of being hostile.  I respect other's beliefs, but belong to this site to help other's quit smoking, keep my quit, and share some things in my life with people I like and respect.

   Some posts fell into that group, so I knew to ignore them.   All too often, religious beliefs, prayers, etc.  pop up in the middle of another post that others wouldn't know about in advance of  reading the various comments.  I don't have a problem with anyone holding those beliefs, but I also don't promote my lack of those beliefs on this site and I don't feel censored.  I have expressed that I feel it's inappropriate for the intent of this site.    There are a number of members on this site that are followers that I like a great deal.  I care about the individual without judging their religious beliefs.  

@indingrl  You've kind of become the center of attention with this topic.  I hope you won't stop posting.  It has been a dilemma for me -- I honestly always edited your posts and picked out things that were impacting your life vs what appears like preaching to me.  IMHO

The important thing is that the site has recognized  people with different spiritual beliefs by establishing a group for those individuals to share their views.   To me, that is being inclusive.

Barb

[Bonnie]

@Giulia  I wanted to comment on your comment but no can do as far as I can tell so I'm "@ing" you.  After being off EX for a week or so I was ready to log on and see what's what. Maybe there should be a group called "Chronic Relapsers" and I can focus my attention there. I do want to pay it forward and miss my friends here...thanks for being you...

[Giulia]

@Bonnie I don't see how to specifically comment on your comment either.  But I do see your message.  Thanks for appreciating "me being me."  Fortunately we do have PMs still available, so don't ever hesitate to contact me that way.  Maybe within the  - is there a relapse group anymore? ah yes, I just found it  -  Relapse Prevention  https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/t5/Relapse-Prevention/gh-p/relapse-prevention- you might create a blog that people could comment on p on an ongoing basis?  Just like Jackie did with the Let's Get Moving Blog.  It's not a "group" per se, but it IS in the sense that's it's an on-going dialogue about a particular topic simply on a blog and has become a kind of a "group."  Why not create a blog called CHRONIC RELAPSERS?  Seriously.  Go to the Relapse Prevention group - set up a blog title "Chronic Relapsers" and  go from there.  I'll jump into that blog if there are any "chronic relapsers"  aka 'serial quitters' who  want to speak up there.  I mean - they are one and the same, right?  Seriously.  Look  at the "Let's get moving" blog and see if you can generate enough interest in a "Chronic Relapsers" blog.  

[Bonnie]

@Giulia  sounds like a plan, but not tonight...I had no idea that's how Jackie did Let's Get Moving...OK...those are really the folks I want to help most...been there done that...thanks again!

[Bonnie]

@Giulia thanks for the pm..tried to reply but couldn't see what I was typing or how to send. This was on my Android phone and I wasn't going to fire up my laptop just for that. I'm wondering if this platform is in beta...thx for the info...