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Had to do turn away a sister

sweetplt
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I can’t go into every detail because it would be 63 years of my sister’s existence.  She has been a problem all that time.  I have stressed for a few nights because she wants to live with me when I get back in PA, but I cannot allow it.  My sister has a gambling problem for 6 years and she has been on disability for many years along with working for the state.  She doesn’t get a ton of money, but what she gets she spends on gambling.  She lost a condo she had paid for with no bills, but electric, etc., My husband and I are the only ones in the family who stay in contact with her and have helped numerous times.  She has two grown daughters.  Every time she gets a roof over her head, it is a few months and she is back on the street.  Just like quitting smoking, you can’t help a person who doesn’t want to get help.  It is a viscous cycle and I cannot keep putting my husband through this when he has had such a heart with her, but no longer trusts her lies.  The worst part is she tell us she isn’t gambling.  I had to tell her the truth this morning, and now the unending guilt is coming my way.  She is coming at me with her manipulation...She doesn’t know I wished me dead rather then having to come to this point that I can’t continue to help her.   I am so sad, hurt and have an awful migraine.  I had to “let it out” so Thank you for listening ... if there is one sunny thing in all this mess, smoking was never an option.  

My heart is breaking...Love and hugs to all Colleen aka sweetp 

62 Comments
SimplySheri
Member

It's never easy, is it?  I'm so sorry you had to do what you did...but what you did was give her back her power to change.  You gave her choices.  You gave her love, Colleen.  And when she is ready, she will recognize that for the great gift that it is.  No, we can't change people or take away their addictions but we can say "You can handle this when you're ready. I believe in you."  

She is so very blessed to have you and your husband in her life!!  I know you are hurting right now but know in your heart you did the very BEST thing.  Gentle hugs to you.

sweetplt
Member

Ah Sheri...I tell her so often I believe she can do it...and I will help, but I need the truth...I once told her I would even feel better if she just “admitted it”...I wouldn’t be angry...like living with us in the past and in shelters, etc., she leaves because “life has rules” and she doesn’t follow them....sometimes I am sad and mad my dad and mom left me to deal with her...pretty bad Christian, huh? Poor dad has Alzheimer’s and my mom is a bit of a manipulator herself...Thank you Sheri for your kind words...

Ladybug--7-3-12

You had to do the right thing not only for you & your husband but for … your Sis.  You did it.  Hard, yes.  Right, yes.  She has to make a choice now for herself.  Her choices. Her consequences.  (Sounds familiar?)  No more enabling.  This is a "Come to Jesus moment" for her.  (((Colleen)))

YoungAtHeart
Member

You should not feel guilty for finally standing up for yourself.  THAT is your decision and yours alone to make.  You have no part in her decision to continue to live by her own "rules."  That is on her, not you.

I am proud of you for doing what is right for you now.  It's time.  Continuing to help her is just enabling her behavior...Enough!  She will never change if she isn't forced to and if not then, it is still HER decision - not yours - that is responsible for whatever results. 

SimplySheri
Member

Truth is hard for someone with addiction problems.  I work with that daily and continue to advocate for honest living in order to live recovery   Release her to live her way and keep those boundaries in place!!  You've got this, Colleen.  Please know you are doing the best thing for your sister as well as you and your husband.  I'm proud of you!!

RachelMB
Member

Sending big hugs your way!  You did the right thing sweet lady! xoxoxo

Rachel

sweetplt
Member

Oh it is a Jesus moment because I have lifted her up to him...My sister is very intelligent...we have offered her so many scenarios and got her out of many jams...but she will not take responsibility...for example, hubs was going to pay her rent but she would have to hand over her pay and we would give her allowance to get her on her feet she refused...she was to write out a budget once and refused, go to gamblers anonymous did that once and said she wasn’t one of them, and on and on...and yet I cry for her right now...but deep down I know she has a choice and she has our help, but she must take steps and she refuses...

Thank you for your kindness Ladybug--7-3-12 

sweetplt
Member

Thank you Nancy, read above what I wrote above to Ladybug--7-3-12 Thank you for being proud of me, right now I am having trouble seeing anything but sadness.  I have dealt with her “on her” terms always, this is the first time I said, “no more” and gosh it is hard...Thank you always for helping me out YoungAtHeart 

sweetplt
Member

Thank you so much RachelMB ... 

Jennifer-Quit
Member

I feel for you - had to turn away my sister too a few years back - not quite to the same extreme but it does hurt.  Best wishes to you.

Thomas3.20.2010

Take good and gentle care of yourself, Colleen. You're setting boundaries and that's new to you. But it is the right thing for everybody involved. Stay strong!

pmt
Member

Colleen, it's so dang hard, but you have to say no.  If we continue enabling, we can be pretty darn sure it will not end.  It's her turn to be responsible.  HUGS TO YOU.

pmt

Ladybug--7-3-12

My many decades in social services showed me that the best GIFT we can give loved ones is the gift of independence & sometimes even forced "right" choices if necessary.  After all, who says we will always be around to bail them out?  Their success is OUR success.  It hurts … a lot … but it opens her world to the grand possibility of creating a better life for herself & more importantly, a better ending.  Blessings on your head (& your Sis's too!).     

indingrl
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OldBones-Larry

I have been in the same situation my friend. It was my brother. He had a quad bypass and continued to smoke. That along with diabetes was the big problem. He wouldn't follow a diet or give up the smoking. After having to get an ambulance for him after he ran out of his insulin and didn't tell me for four days I had to take the backlash for having him taken to the hospital against his will. I gave them permission after he passed out.

Hugs to you and I will Sing to Creator for you.

Larry

5Jacks
Member

Oh, Colleen, I so feel your sadness and pain. Not to jump on your bandwagon, but I am going through virtually the same situation except it's my so-called "partner" and his alcohol addiction. Events occurred just last night to finally wake me up from the fantasy world I lived in where this problem didn't exist. Apparently, it's just MY problem and, so, just as I did 30+ days ago with cigarettes, I've come to realize that I need to quit him, too.

Yeah, the good news is that neither of us is turning to a cigarette for solace or comfort or anesthesia.

Hang in there, my friend. Our broken hearts will heal. 

Mary

sweetplt
Member

Thank you Jennifer-Quit for understanding, I am sorry you had to experience the same thing...

sweetplt
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Thank you so much Thomas...Thomas3.20.2010 

sweetplt
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Thank you pmt 

sweetplt
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Diane Joy indingrl will take the hug and the love...Thank you...

maryfreecig
Member

Thank you for talking about this, Colleen. I'm sorry you are feeling guilty because you did not do it out of malice. You did what was the best thing to do--I'm glad you did. Big hug. If the guilt does not go away soon enough--imagine her living with you...

You chose reality!!! One more big hug.

sweetplt
Member

Dearest Larry...This means a lot...especially your share...Thank you so much...but I hate that you or anyone has/had to go through this with family, friend, spouse, partner, etc., xoxoxoxo 

sweetplt
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Mary 5Jacks I am so sorry you are going through this with your partner...quitting smoking is so much more then just quitting...I will send a prayer ... you can deal with all of this too...and stay strong...”one step at a time”...Thank you for your kindness...

sweetplt
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Thank you Mary maryfreecig my husband said eventually I will get angry that she is putting me and/or put me and family through so much for years...I am hear if she decides to stop the insanity...but I can’t do anymore...Thank you Mary for your kind words and hugs...

Strudel
Member

Oh my gosh Colleen - your blog gave me chills. One of my sisters and I have a similar relationship - due to a different addiction - but the story is so familiar. I have tried for many years to help her - including taking her in. However, I now have had to say no - I just can’t keep trying to help her - it doesn’t work. It hurts so much......I am so sorry you are having to handle this. I truly now believe that my mental health - and yours - is worth doing what is right for us. I am sending prayers and special thoughts your way. 

MarilynH
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I'm so sorry Colleen I feel so bad I'm totally at a loss for words if you can believe that! ♥

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sweetplt
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Marilyn MarilynH the hugs mean so much...Thank you...She is angry and texting awful things to me...and twisting stuff around...It will just take some time to feel ok with the boundaries I finally had to set...You know if I died tomorrow she wouldn’t have been to come to anymore, it is what made my final decision...I am not helping her ... ((((hugs back)))) 

Legend
Member

You did the right thing telling your sister she can’t move in.  You have a wonderful heart and I think your sister knows that but I don’t think she will say it to you at least not yet.  I hope your sister gets help soon.  I wish your sister would not put you through this emotional crap you don’t need this stress.  I hope you can sleep well tonight and let her problems float out of your head in the wind.  

(((((Giving you a Big Hug)))))            

MarilynH
Member

I have a younger sister that I've done everything for overthe years she's 56 I'm 60 I've let her live with me I've picked her up at places where she'd have one night stands after a night of drinking that happened several times ugh yuck on those memories as long as I can be a benefit to her everything is fine but if I can't watch out because I'm a terrible sister, I just went through some needless pain with her because of one of her hissy fits with a lot of name calling and cursing on her part I had to back away too, stick with your decision for your own sanity as well as your husbands. ♥

jonimarie
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Ohhhsweetplt 

That is the goal of the manipulator...to make you feel guilty

It is very hard to stand your ground firm on your decision with family

But is is the only decent way to life

Because once you give them an inch they take a mile and the cycle begins again

Stay strong, Stay Firm and do not do anything YOU do not want to do

Love ya

MarilynH
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Huge caring hug coming your way Mary 5Jacks

RachelMB
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I just love how this community pulls together to lift one another up in good times and bad.  It is truly amazing dear friends! xoxoxo

Rachel

Mandolinrain
Member

I am just seeing this and wanted you to know I am praying for you and your sister. As RachelMB , we are all here for you. You are such a kind hearted loving individual and you recognize when to say yes and when to say no. Saying no may end up being the blessing she needs to get the help she needs rather than the way out.....she needs now to find her way through. God Bless you both.

SuzyQ411
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sweetplt‌ From your posts, I have sensed your deep faith. I hope you will turn to God with the very heavy burden you are carrying right now: God Heals the Broken Hearted.jpg He knows your pain. He cares. He loves you.

elvan
Member

SO SORRY this has landed on you, you certainly don’t deserve it! You are a kind & loving person & that just makes it harder for you.  You are a good sister.

sweetplt
Member

Mandolinrain Thank you Missy...I am trying to be strong, but I already texted her that everything is my fault and I am sorry...my mom always said “I was a doormat”...but really I don’t like meanness, lies, toxicity, tension, etc., Neil fly’s in tonight and I will be glad to see him...hugs to you...

sweetplt
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SuzyQ411 wrote:

sweetplt From your posts, I have sensed your deep faith. I hope you will turn to God with the very heavy burden you are carrying right now: God Heals the Broken Hearted.jpg He knows your pain. He cares. He loves you.

Oh SuzyQ411 I am lifting it up to God...you are so right and asking him to help her and me...but I am weak person...thank you for sharing this psalm...I have been reading others Psalms this evening.  

sweetplt
Member

Oh Ellen elvan so much is my fault because I allowed her to do this to me for years...and now I say no......she is being hateful...and I am getting weak and apologizing...honestly, I am so tired...Thank you for being so kind...and always helping me out...

sweetplt
Member

I think I will sleep because I am exhausted from not sleeping for two nights knowing what I had to do...now I am emotionally and physically exhausted...Legend your outpouring of kindness and everyone’s tonight is so humbling...Thank you 

YoungAtHeart
Member

No apologies!  N O N E!  She is manipulating you so she can continue living by HER rules.  There is no reason for you not to put a limit - better late than never.

Stop the doormat behavior.  Hey!  You quit smoking; you can do ANYTHING!

Thinking of you!

Nancy

sweetplt
Member

Thank you jonimarie this is exactly what happens...it never ends ... she is so angry right now ... and I am just sad...but the outpouring here has been so unbelievable...xoxoxoxox 

sweetplt
Member

Kathy Strudel You so get it...she has lived with us in the past...and we have helped ... even called around to get her to sign up for low income housing but she has to give information and she refuses...everything we tired, we hit a brick wall...but right now she is texting awful things to me and angry and I am so sad and feel sick...my husband is flying in to Fl tonight and I can’t wait to see him..

Thank you for being so kind, but I hate this is something you or anyone has to go through...

elvan
Member

sweetplt‌ l have been codependent to an alcoholic & a drug addict, both family members l love dearly. When things change & you HAVE to say STOP....the addiction screams out at YOU! It’s not really your sister & you are doing her a very, very difficult favor! She is very lucky to have you.

Love,

Ellen

Sootie
Member

Everyone is going to answer the same way but I can't skip this blog.

Colleen---you have NO reason to feel guilty. We are all, each, responsible for ourselves and our problems. 

You HAVE helped your sister many,many times and to what end? Nothing.

Do NOT beat your self up over this....your health cannot take it.

As we WELL KNOW---addicts can be manipulative people. In order to get what they want....they hurt others along the way.

Be at peace. Pray for your sister but do not worry over having to say no.

My kids used to tell me that they prayed for this or that and they didn't get it....."God didn't hear me" they would say. And I would answer, "Yes, He did. It's just that He had to say no."

sweetplt
Member

Thank you Nancy YoungAtHeart actually I think I may have to block her phone number even for a few days...so I can get feeling better...the outpouring here is so humbling...

sweetplt
Member

((((Sootie))))) Thank you...this is so true....I / We have helped so many times not just 6 years, but years and years and I / We just can’t do it...there two other sisters, let her go to them, or her kids...but you see they can’t take it or the lies either.  Worse part this is the 4 time in 6 years she ended up in her car...I don’t know what else to do...she stays with us in the past and each time nothing ever changed or got better...oh I don’t know...just rambling...thank you for your thoughts....

SuzyQ411
Member

I have added you and your sisters to my prayers tonight and will keep you in my thoughts~ His Word is our comfort.

Love ya!

SuzyQ411
Member

Hope you took a nice soothing soak in the tub and are now in bed. However, if you are still awake and still ruminating, consider that bath, ok? xox

Giulia
Member

I read your blog earlier today and some of the responses and thought, "what can I add that would be different or add anything that hasn't already been said.  And now that I'm back here again - there really isn't anything that I can add except to agree with all those who have already chimed in.  Though I have family members and friends who have children addicted to various substances, who have stolen their parent's credit cards, sold their grandmothers silver, been in jail, died of overdoses... I can't really understand what it's like for the parent or sibling going through it.  The mother who kicks the son out and then can't NOT let them come back home time after time, even though it ruins the relationship each time and always ends up in a bad way.    

I admire your strength in denying  that which would, from your description, only enable the same behavior in your sister.  The cost of that decision is all the greater because of the love you have for her.  It eats you up and makes you feel guilty BECAUSE you love her.  But you also have to love yourself right?  You know that not only would it hurt her to be that enabler, but it would hurt you as well.  It's not just that it would hurt your husband, it would hurt all three of your relationships.  You've been there, you've done it, you know.  

Trust the decision you've made.  It's based on your own personal experience.  It's fact, not fiction.  Obviously if your input and help had made a difference in the past, you'd have a different attitude.  And I think the fact that you know she's trying to manipulate you is a very healthy perspective.  When we know we're being manipulated we are less likely to fall into the emotional whirlpool attempted to be created by the puppeteer.  

It still hurts.  And I send you a hug.  Stay strong and forgive yourself.  You are not her mommy.  She is her own mommy and apparently hasn't been a very good one.  If you accept her in, then you will forever be the caretaker, right?  It seems that's the deal.  She is not going to change.  Or at least hasn't in all the years you've been trying to help.  You don't want to live with her under those circumstances.  Why should you?  Why are you beating yourself up over that?  There is absolutely no reason why you should want to live under those circumstances.  YOU have a life too, remember.  When she shows that she's reliable, has some self discipline, then you can revisit the decision.  And if she's being nasty to you, you - who are one of the most loving people - doesn't sound like she's "got you in her heart."    Sounds like she just wants her way.  

Gai.C
Member

sweetplt‌ I had to do that very thing to my Son who is now 34. He is not Responsible. Just got of of Jail 5 year sentence.  He is a drug addict.  I'm not the problem or the Solution.  Neither are U. We have to Love them from a Distance.  U did the best thing for y po ur Sister.(  Turn her over to God. ) Praying for U and your Sister.  

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I am here to quit smoking. This will be my third quit. Both quits before lasted a long time and then about 4 years ago I thought I could just have one with a cocktail and a friend, here I am 4 years later and finally quit 13 days.