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Y8ha
Member

Disturbing withdrawals

Hey guys I recently just joined this website. I use e-cigarettes and cigarette addiction runs in my family and no one has been able to quit... No one knows I vape and I am trying to quit after 5 years of using it every day hundreds of times a day. I have tried quitting before and after even two or three hours, my mind starts getting foggy, I get extremely angry, I am not able to sit still, and I feel kind of hazy, like I’m watching myself from the background and someone else or controlling me. It’s really hard to explain but I can’t have a normal conversation with people, I can’t listen to others, I am just zoned out in my own little world? I have asked countless people about this and everyone thinks I’m crazy? Does anyone know what I am talking about or has anyone gone through this type of thing before? Thanks for the advice.

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YoungAtHeart
Member

Welcome to our community!

Nicotine addiction is nicotine addiction - no matter the delivery device - and how to beat any of them is about the same. Every time you read :"cigarette" in the information I will give you, just sub "vape."   The one thing different I would recommend is that you first start to reduce the nicotine content of the liquids..  Start with a lesser amount in, like, one in every four cartridge, then three, etc. until you are only using the smallest amount.  That way the physical withdrawal should be more manageable.  What you are experiencing in the "fog" is physical withdrawal from nicotine.  Read on to learn all about how this addiction affects you.

The important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read. You can search for it online or at your local library. If you do nothing else to get ready for your quit, please do give this a read.


 You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmoking.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance. Here is a video to inform you further about nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be.

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort after you have tried to delay and distract.   I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  You need to start out with a plan to reduce use of them over time - which the patch does by decreasing the dose contained in them..  For the gum, you can start by cutting each piece in half, then in quarters, then sub regular gum of the same flavor in between, adding more and more regular gum.  For the lozenge, you need to start subbing a mint of he same flavor in between to begin, increasing the number of them over time. 
 

It will be informative if you do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site. As you track each cigarette smoked, note its importance, and what you might do instead. Put each one off just a little to prove that you don't NEED a cigarette just because you think you do.
 

The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit.  If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.
 
You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time.  You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits.    Get busy!  Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
 https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...
The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!


 Nancy

Y8ha
Member

Thank you so much I needed this 

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MarilynH
Member

Welcome Y8ha, please read Nancy's welcome post above me along with the links then keep on reading everything you can because it's going to help strengthen your resolve to quit and stay quit, you can do it and we're all here to help you in any way we can .....

Barbara145
Member

How old are you?  I just saw on morning  T.V. about young people and vaping.  It is such a huge problem in our country.  As for no one in your family overcoming addiction to nicotine, I did.  Both of my parents smoked until they died (both from cancer.)  My sister still smokes.  I quit smoking with NRT's and the help from this site.  You can do this.   

Y8ha
Member

Thanks for responding Barbara I am 19 years old I stared before it became popular 5 years ago. But now that everyone’s is doing it, it is not helping at all and makes it even worse. I’m sorry to hear about that, this is a huge problem and I think it’s taken too lightly. Thank you forgot your words, means a lot.

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Sootie
Member

We ALL know what you are talking about and so will anyone who has quit smoking or vaping the fought the  nicotine addiction. Foggy, angry, out of sorts, un-real, out of step, jumpy, hazy.........those are all just symptoms of your body trying to get over the nicotine poison you have been pumping into it. It will pass. The only way to quit smoking or vaping is to educate yourself  on the addiction and what it is going to be like when you quit, make a plan to get through it and then........QUIT. Put them down and never pick one up again.

You are 19? GREAT! FANTASTIC! SUPER!!! How we ALL wish we had quit at 19! Please be successful. You don't know it yet but this could be one of the most important things you do in your life.

marciem
Member

Hi there Y8ha‌!  Welcome to the board here....

As to your above symptoms, thus is the world of nicotine withdrawal.  Those you have asked who told you that you were crazy have not exprienced what everyone here has... which is the misery of withdrawal.  As Sootie said above, what you are feeling when you have attempted to quit is 100% normal and to be expected, and we've all been there.  It isn't much fun, but it won't kill you and it isn't permanent nor the way you will feel the rest of your life (though your addicted mind will try to tell you "This is it, live with it forever!").  It is temporary, seems like forever, but doesn't last nearly as long as you have vaped.  Weeks, maybe months, but certinaly not years... that's short term in relation to the rest of your life smoke/vape free!!

Anger, even rage... sadness... confusion/brain fog... up and down like a rollercoaster, all in 10 minutes or less... again, not permanent.  The benefits however ARE permanent and you will have your life back and not be at the beck and call of your craving for nicotine.

Read all you can, YoungAtHeart‌ gave you some excellent homework to keep you busy and get you educated, which is key to maintaining your freedom from nicotine addiction, in whatever form you have used it!

elvan
Member

Please read everything you can about this addiction, it IS an addiction and withdrawal is every bit as real as it is with any other drug...legal or not.  I am so proud of you for getting yourself on the right path while you are still so young.  You will have a much better chance of recovery from this addiction while you are still healthy.  

Please stay close to the site and know that no one here thinks you are crazy.

Welcome to EX,

Ellen

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Barbscloud
Member

Welcome to the Ex.   We're here to help once you make the commitment and take the first step.  Pick a quit date and education yourself about this addiction and prepare for your quit.  It may not be easy, but you can do it.  There's lots of support here!

Barb

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