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Bullethead
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mg. reduction

How many mg. can a person drop without major withdraws or chain vaping? I been dropping 0.1 mg a month for 7.5 years, no tobacco products. Would a drop of .3 mg be excessive. I'm currently at 8.2 mg.

I mix, since day one. Only paid once for a jug and that went in the trash.

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Bullethead
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I'll give in to dropping my usage. Figuring 0.4 mg. will be ok without any adverse reaction.

Good luck everyone.

YoungAtHeart
Member

Welcome to our community!

You might ask your question here:  E-Cig and Vape Quitters and Users 

Seems to me that a jump in half (if that is true) would be a huge one, and maybe subbing a lower dose in, like,  one in every four pods, then one in every three, etc. might be the way to go?  idk if that is something you can do or not.  Reducing the amount of nicotine in each pod every couple of days might be the way to go, too - but 0.1 a month seems to be too little to me.

Understanding how nicotine addiction works might give you the answer, too.  Read on to do that, and to get some tips to help you on this journey to freedom.   Because it is available to you most anywhere, anytime, I believe it might be more difficult from which to break free than tobacco products - but it CAN be done! 

Although primarily a smoking cessation site, I have seen a huge increase in the number of people coming for help to break free from vaping. Research suggests nicotine may be as addictive as heroin and cocaine. Here is a great article with information about the products: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/vaping/vaping-101-what-know-about-e-cigs-addiction-illnesses-n1054981... There is further information here: https://www.becomeanex.org/quitting-e-cigarettes and here; https://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/impact-of-e-cigarettes-on-lung.html .

Nicotine addiction is nicotine addiction - no matter the delivery device - and how to beat any of them is about the same. Every time you read :"cigarette" in the information I will give you, just sub "Juul" or “vape,” or “device.”   The one thing different I would recommend is that you first start to reduce the nicotine content of the pods.  Start with a lesser amount in, like, one in every four, then three, etc. until you are only using the smallest amount, or reduce the amount of nicotine in the pods over time That way the physical withdrawal should be more manageable. You might find useful information, as well, here: https://truthinitiative.org/research-resources/quitting-smoking-vaping/quitting-e-cigarettes.

I recommend that you educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind To that end, I suggest Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” . Vaping was not a concern when this was written, so you will need to sub “vape”as necessary. This is an easy and entertaining read which can be found online or at your local library. If you do nothing else to get ready for your quit, please do give this a read. Here is a video to inform you further about nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be.

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort after you have tried to delay and distract.   I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  You need to start out with a plan to reduce use of them over time - which the patch does by decreasing the dose contained in them..  For the gum, you can start by cutting each piece in half, then in quarters, then sub regular gum of the same flavor in between, adding more and more regular gum.  For the lozenge, you need to start subbing a mint in between to begin, increasing the number of them over time.

It will be informative if you do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site. As you track each device use, note its importance, and what you might do instead. Put each use off just a little to prove that you don't NEED a puff just because you think you do

The idea is to change up your routines so the vaping associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from where you vaped. Maybe switch to tea for a bit.  If you always had that first puff with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to vape so the view is different. Take a different route when you are out and about so you aren't driving by your vaping supply shop. Take a quick walk at break time instead of vaping.


You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that vaping thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time.  You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits.    Get busy!  Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of vape if you need some fresh ideas:
 https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...


The conversation in your head in response to the "I want to vape" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!


 Nancy

Bullethead
Member

Thank you all. It's a long haul. I been dropping mg. way slow. 38 year smoking heavy, and the 7+ with a "Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhaling  System"... lol...you may laugh...jest is ok.

I'm not able to stop vaping any sooner. I have my first love, not good health. Round about here... Her Widow Maker brought on the biggest desire to stop smoking. "Just second hand knowledge now." if you can read between the lines.

Near sixty with only health issues of another.

Anyway, I'm out... time to mix, easy, quick, accurate at any PG/VG% and any mg. level, and yes just a task I find myself tired of.  (Flavoring is killer, and my choice is only 13% of the majority of flavoring e-liquid sold.)

Oh! Just what is a "POD". Do people really know what chemicals been put in their e-liquid? Let big tobacco control your nicotine vape products. Sure, you can trust the same bunch that makes smokes.

Bullethead
Member

I cut my nicotine down .95 mg (vaping 7.25 mg. now). I notice no heavy withdraws. When down to 0 mg. I'll quit; not sure when, just way sooner than previously determined.