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pnkdasyz
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Vaping

I want to quit vaping but it’s hard when it’s not known to be bad like cigarettes. I’ve seen studies citing lung damage but other studies stating it’s unlikely to exceed 5% harm of cigarettes and another one stating no long term damage over 3.5 year period. I don’t know what to think? I know I am tired of being a slave to it but like I said it’s hard when it’s not known to be terrible. Any advice?

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YoungAtHeart
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Welcome to our community!

Nicotine addiction is nicotine addiction - no matter the delivery device - and how to beat any of them is about the same. Every time you read :"cigarette" in the information I will give you, just sub "vape."   The one thing different I would recommend is that you first start to reduce the nicotine content of the pods.  Start with a lesser amount in, like, one in every four, then three, etc. until you are only using the smallest amount.  That way the physical withdrawal should be more manageable. You might find useful information, as well, here: https://truthinitiative.org/research-resources/quitting-smoking-vaping/quitting-e-cigarettes.

I have read that you actually are receiving a higher dose of nicotine in vaping than from regular cigarettes.  For example, if you are using a 6 mg solution, that is equal to 6 cigarettes.  If you are able to vape pretty much at will, you are keeping that level of nicotine more in your system than a smoker only getting 1 mg at a time from each cigarette.  As it is being studied, vaping is being shown to BE harmful.  You might do a search for "harm from vaping."  Popcorn lung is one problem I have read about.  I think the worst part of being a nicotine addict is that you are an addict.   The expense, the stress caused by the sensors in your brain needing their next, and next, and next fix, thinking about if you have a pod and if not, when you can get to the store to get one, etc., etc.  I CAN tell you that the freedom from that makes the underlying stress in your life MUCH improved.

The important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read. You can search for it online or at your local library. If you do nothing else to get ready for your quit, please do give this a read.


 You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmoking.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance. Here is a video to inform you further about nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be.

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort after you have tried to delay and distract.   I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  You need to start out with a plan to reduce use of them over time - which the patch does by decreasing the dose contained in them..  For the gum, you can start by cutting each piece in half, then in quarters, then sub regular gum of the same flavor in between, adding more and more regular gum.  For the lozenge, you need to start subbing a mint in between to begin, increasing the number of them over time.

It will be informative if you do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site. As you track each cigarette smoked, note its importance, and what you might do instead. Put each one off just a little to prove that you don't NEED a cigarette just because you think you do.
 

The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit.  If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.
 
You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time.  You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits.    Get busy!  Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
 https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...
The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!


 Nancy

AnnetteMM
Member

I smoked cigarettes for over 40 years, then I used Juul for a few months. I quit vaping, but not because it's "bad for me." In fact, knowing the dangers of smoking has never really been the #1 motivation for quitting. One thing you said, though, is a key to your forever quit, and is that you're tired of being a slave to it.

Bingo.

You're a slave to nicotine. Nicotine is an addiction. If you truly want to free yourself from the addiction, you can. If you're still not sure, you're not ready. Quits are lost because we aren't 100% committed to them.

PrimeNumberJD
Member

I would argue there are dangers to vaping; the dangers are not known due to a lack of data. Longitudinal studies are lacking and probably can't even correlate issues, let some prove causation. 

Vaping is touted as a "safe" alternative to smoking. It is stated to be not as harmful as smoking. Whether true or untrue, both have been stated enough to be understood as true. Both statements are relative to smoking.

Truth, 2 out of 3 smokers die from smoking related diseases. What is relatively safer than 67 percent? 66 percent or less. At what percent are you willing to gamble? 

At one point, steroids were thought to be harmless, but we now know different. How long before we find out the true long term effects of vaping? The true dangers lurking in the dark? 

indingrl
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Welcome EDUCATION is the key - WAY TO GO set YOUR date and blog blog blog - please give us TIME to answer - gentle hug

elvan
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Welcome to EX, I understand what you are saying about quitting being hard.  I also completely understand that you don't quite believe that it is harmful to vape.  Back when I started smoking, I was on the fence as well, everyone smoked and they did it everywhere.  It's really odd to think back to that now, I was a nurse for over 25 years and I saw the damage that smoking did, up close and personal.  The fact is that nicotine addiction is incredibly powerful, regardless of the method of administration.  Quitting is NOT easy, it is a one step at a time journey.  It DOES get easier.  I smoked for 47 years and I have now been quit for over 5 1/2 years thanks to the support from this site.  Unfortunately, I have COPD and I am on oxygen at night now, I am always short of breath with even  a little exertion.  It isn't worth it to take any chances.  I worry all the time about the kids who don't understand what they are getting into with this addiction.  Don't do it, don't be a statistic.  My brother in law is an ER doctor in NY state and he says he has seen many kids with "Popcorn Lung" and that they were all vapers.  None of their parents knew.  It's not worth it to take the risk...quitting is a journey and you CAN do this.  Look at how many people here have quit, every one of us want you to succeed..

Ellen