quitter39 We were raised Catholic. My brother met a lady, married her and was "saved" in her church. The majority of the church members were her relatives. It's a small town church. Never underestimate the power that a church has on its members, no matter how small it is. If you want to see your grandchildren, you are going to have to stay clear of any confrontation with your son with regard to his time spent with that church. Be careful walking on that thin piece of ice.