Edith, i so agree with you on this, a few people have made it the first time they ever tried to quit and that is great. however, i do not think that every one can or should do it on their first try. what i mean is, some times we have to learn compassion for one another, if i have never been on that road befor, how can i know the heartache and the miserable feeling you have when you fail? i do not mean to take any thing away from the people that did it on their first time, i think that is great, but i do not think it makes any one any better and unfortunatly i do think that some do. any way, do you remember the old song HE AIN,T HEAVY, HE,S MY BROTHER? the words to that song is so needed on this site, and thank you for letting people see that if we fail, we are to get right back up, because we will win peace!