Stupid Question Under the Circumstances

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on Mar 22, 2020
Latest reply on Mar 29, 2020 by MarilynH

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The Jive platform seems to have become as unstable as our life platform. Changing on a daily basis.

Just tried to "like" something. Got this in reply with X through the thumbs up:

Not allowed to like. Seems like the entire Jive platform is self destructing just like our current wold is. I couldn't capture the hand figure in the screen capture. Does it matter? Not really in the scheme of things. But this was a first for me. That I wasn't allowed to "like" something.

Well, I LIKE this site. I like it LOT. And we don't need "like" buttons to say so. And so I have!

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MarilynH Mar 22, 2020 10:19 PM
It's been happening to me off and on for the last couple of days but the weird thing for me is I'll be logged in commenting on blogs and maybe a couple of likes which is working fine then I'll read another blog which it won't allow me to like or comment then I'll notice that it in the upper right corner it says log in so I tap on it and then I'm logged in again which I should've have been anyway Giulia we really need this site working efficiently especially right now.....
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- Giulia @ MarilynH on Mar 23, 2020 12:19 AM
  Yes. I've just noticed that too a few minutes ago. It seems to be requiring a new log in of late. And I cleared my "cache" not too long ago and already just logged in so it should not be happening now.
  
  You're absolutely right. We need the site to be working efficiently especially under the current circumstances when so many smokers are going CRAZY because they can't get to their store to buy their smokes. I went to the liquor store today (which was open, though you couldn't get in the premises. Good move, thought I. They came outside, took your order, gathered it up inside, came back outside with it and the machine that, if you were using a credit card, you could sign on... Meanwhile the other half or the store, dedicated to the smoking end of our addictions was closed.)
  
  And a truck drove in as I was about to get back into my car with the booze I had purchased, and they asked about the other end of the store and cigarettes, and I said it was closed... and as they drove off I just thought "God, I'm so sorry they are going through a nicotine panic." And how long it would be, before they would find a store that had cigarettes - or vapes, or whatever they needed. And I hope that maybe they won't get their fix of cigarettes. That maybe that might be one way to overcome this addiction? Because you simply can't get any? No option. The reality that might be actually occurring now which is the same reality that we, successful quitters, created long ago in our minds. "Smoking is not an option."
  
  But, ya know.. we have so much more to worry about than this.
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Sootie Mar 22, 2020 11:27 PM
This is just an opinion of mine but I really can't stand like buttons......I KNOW the majority of people "like" them (no pun intended) but I don't and---sorry Giulia I just sort of jumped on your blog to say so. This is off topic from what you are speaking to that the platform is malfunctioning.......and I apologize for changing the subject.
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- Giulia @ Sootie on Mar 23, 2020 12:29 AM
  Sootie, I am in complete agreement with you. (Well, not so much that I hate"like" buttons" but just that I find them so childish and petty. Also psychologically so - self aggrandizing or self depleting. They're for kids, right?) As a matter of fact, before you put up this response I wrote a whole blog on the topic. Just didn't get around to editing it. And I usually wait until the light of day and the evening's digestings before I throw up a blog. Because sometimes it can be just simply barf.
  
  But you, my dear, are welcome to jump in ANY TIME (as are any other people) to respond in any way you like on any blog of mine. What I wrote in my blog - yet to be - is: “LIKES” are, at the base level, an acknowledgment."
  
  To my mind any comment means somebody's reading and paying attention. And I thank you for your opinion. I value it.
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  - Sootie @ Giulia on Mar 23, 2020 9:16 PM
    I agree that at least, a like button shows someone was reading a blog. And, they are fine......just somewhat overused at times.
    But, like buttons remind me of something my Dad used to day (is anyone sick of my Dad stories yet? I have a million!)
    So--my Dad would always say that if you give someone a paperweight you were really saying......"I couldn't be bothered trying to think of a gift for you so I am giving you this rock kind of thing in case a very strong wind ever blows through your office." Dad passed away before gift cards became popular...but my sister and I always laugh when we give each other gift cards and we repeat Dad's words in jest......I couldn't be bothered trying to think of a gift for you.......
    Now people....please don't:
    >Ask me what a paperweight is( dating myself)
    >Tell me a gift card is often a very nice gift(I know that)
    >Tell me you will stop "liking" my blogs if that is how I feel (PUL LEEZE!!)
    It's just some observations of mine that are in no way judgement of you.....cause you know I love you all.
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    - Giulia @ Sootie on Mar 24, 2020 12:40 AM
      Hmmmm, I wonder what people younger than we (well ME, we know you've got the Fountain of Youth in your blood), consider a paper weight today? Well, they don't use paper, do the?, so I guess they don't need a weight for it???? Paper? What's that? Except perhaps for the toilet kind. Paper towels. But writing upon? That'd be papyrus, right? To the younger generation with the computers and cell phones in their hands... They don't even have "script." It's all block letters. Perhaps we've even degenerated to the X mark.
      
      Overused? Really? (She said sarcastically.)
      
      Wish I could have met your Dad. But I did meet you. Next best thing.
      
      PS. Nancy may have a problem with your "judgement" spelling. Youngatheart.7.4.12
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      - YoungAtHeart @ Giulia on Mar 24, 2020 10:31 AM
        
        But this is a "No Judgment Zone!"
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        Sootie @ YoungAtHeart on Mar 27, 2020 6:09 PM
        YoungAtHeart Giulia
        I actually know the "discussion" on judgement/judgment.........but I have to tell you that judgment just doesn't
        "look" right to me and so I like to use the other.
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        YoungAtHeart @ Sootie on Mar 27, 2020 7:04 PM
        It's ALL good - the "e" makes the hair on the back of my arms stand on end when used in that word!
        It's what makes the world such a wonderful, unique place: Different strokes for different folks!
        
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- Barbscloud @ Sootie on Mar 23, 2020 8:58 AM
  I agree. There can be too much liking.
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meWisconsin Mar 23, 2020 6:52 AM
I "Like" all the comments. I find the discussion "likable." I will "likely" smile as more comments come forward.
Can't help myself this morning as I "like" being me.
Terry
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sweetplt Mar 23, 2020 8:14 AM
Hi Giulia sometimes I can like, but usually not...also, this weekend I am getting messages when I spent writing on someone’s post “that it can’t be saved” so when I hit reply it disappears. It has been so frustrating. I don’t understand what is going on with the site....Thanks for bringing this up...Colleen
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- MarilynH @ sweetplt on Mar 23, 2020 9:13 AM
  Yep I've been getting that too big red banner stating it....
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- Giulia @ sweetplt on Mar 23, 2020 12:20 PM
  I also got that "can't be saved" message, Colleen. And I suspect it's what Mark said: "it didn't think you were logged in even though you thought you were. " Too bad the system doesn't tell us when we've been thrown out and need to log back in. In order to prevent our comments/blogs from getting lost, it's always not a bad idea to just highlight then do a CTRL C. That way we can pop them right back in if necessary.
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  - sweetplt @ Giulia on Mar 23, 2020 12:49 PM
    Giulia Trying now to log out and log in when I come to Ex’s and see if that helps ...
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Barbscloud Mar 23, 2020 8:57 AM
I've been having problems also.
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Mark Mar 23, 2020 9:02 AM
Giulia

It's not a stupid question at all. I'll monitor this as well. I did notice an issue where it was seeming to log out quicker however it seemed to be better by the weekend happened so I didn't monitor it closely. Thanks for speaking up. I suspect the issue with the like button happened because it didn't think you were logged in even though you thought you were.

Mark
EX Community Manager
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YoungAtHeart Mar 23, 2020 9:33 AM
Mark I log out every night, log back in each morning on the log-In page. When I come to the community (from that link), I notice I need to log in again. I don't actually have to do the log-in, I just have to click on it on the homepage and I am logged in. Hope this might help you diagnose it?
Stay well!
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- MarilynH @ YoungAtHeart on Mar 23, 2020 10:59 AM
  Same as Nancy Mark I still can't mention you without the wrap around @"Mark" but at least I can get you, thanks Mark.
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Mark Mar 27, 2020 12:27 PM
Has the experience been better in the last 12+ hours? I haven't noticed it happening in the last 18ish+ hours.
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- Giulia @ Mark on Mar 27, 2020 11:21 PM
  Has my experience been better. Frankly, I don't know. Well, not given the screenshots below. My laptop is dying, so it may be reflecting that (though I've never seen that particular gobble-de-**** before.) But I want to reiterate what I said which was lost in this process because of what you see below - I haven't been here much in the last 12 to 18 hours. So I can't say whether it's better or not. There are so many different issues that have been ongoing: Not being able to get to someone's page by clicking on an avatar, not being able to embed/upload videos, the fact that the hovercard has never been fixed to relate our true quit dates, then the Like button not working...
  
  From my experience on this platform, they supposedly fix something and then it just reoccurs. So 12 to 18 hours of correction to my mind isn't in any way sufficient to determine whether it will be long lasting. Just because it works for 24 hours, doesn't ensure that it will do so for the rest of our experience on the platform. (Sorry to put out that negative, but it's based on my experience.) You need several months of a particular function working to acknowledge that it is indeed working and will continue to do so as it should. Similar to the coronavirus. 18 hours doesn't tell you much in the scheme of things.
  
  Anyway, I'll try to take note of what's what next time I'm here and "liking" stuff.
  
  AND MAY I JUST ADD: I WENT BACK TO CHECK TO SEE IF THIS RESPONSE ACTUALLY POSTED CORRECTLY AND SAW THE JIVE PC SPEECH CORRECTION ROBO ASTERISKED OUT THE WORD "GOBBLE-DEE- GOOOK." Are you kidding me?
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MarilynH Mar 27, 2020 1:29 PM
I haven't had any issues today Mark Mark so far so good my fingers and toes are crossed.
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YoungAtHeart Mar 28, 2020 8:23 AM
I have gotten what you see many times in the past year. It comes and goes, but happens to me, too.
I am lucky that I quit smoking and gained some patience in the process. If it happens to something I am trying to post and the "post" button is covered in g*bble-dee-g***k, I copy what I wrote, leave that blog and then come back and paste it to try again. It usually resolves itself. Of course I learned this after losing a fair number of responses - I'm a slow learner!!!
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- Giulia @ YoungAtHeart on Mar 28, 2020 12:04 PM
  Glad to know I'm not alone and that it's not just my computer dying. I wonder if we can get a virus from our computer? lol
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  - MarilynH @ Giulia on Mar 28, 2020 3:47 PM
    This has been an ongoing problem for several months now I let Mark know and sent some screenshots to him but it's still happening it just happened actually ugh. Giulia & YoungAtHeart
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  - MarilynH @ Giulia on Mar 28, 2020 3:57 PM
    This also happens several times a daily for several months too..... I just cancel everytime on the duplicate one. Giulia
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    - Giulia @ MarilynH on Mar 28, 2020 11:04 PM
      Thanks Marilyn. The shadow response has been happening to me also. It really helps me to know that others are experiencing the same things I am because I often wonder if it's just "my computer." I find it curious as to the "why" all this has happened, when before everything was going pretty smoothly. My guess is that because Windows puts up a new platform X Y and Z is forced to put up a new platform - everybody has to adapt. I think it's insane, myself. I think there should just be one BIG BROTHER platform and nobody should have to adjust their own little corner of the internet platform upon which they happen to reside. I've noticed that many of my programs (camera program, for example) just doesn't work any more. Period. And Microsoft happily says, "well, you're using Windows 7 - sorry, we're not going to support it any more, and you need to buy a new computer that has Windows 10. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT! That's simply unfair. But, as my stepfather brilliantly said: "Who ever said life was fair." That helps me get through what I consider unfair.
      
      Fortunately, or unfortunately as the case may be, we're moving, apparently, to yet another platform here on EX at the end of year or so. Personally I don't know if I have the energy to go through it all again. A part of me feels an obligation to figure out how it all works and then pass it on to help people as I have in the past. Part of me is just tired. Bone tired. I've done my part for every platform change over the past 10 years and...
      
      I'm sorry for the site owners who chose this platform. They spent a LOT of time trying to select the best possible scenario for their needs as well as ours. After all this site is FREE to us. (And free to us does not mean it doesn't cost them big bucks. I think we take it for granted and forget that.) They asked the community for our input on what was important to us. They tried their best (I believe) to incorporate the best of both worlds. And they spent a lot of time moving our heart-felt material to this platform so we could have it. I suspect that took hours and hours of work. (Personally I think that was ultimately a waste of time as most of it was our personal page comments. And when it was imported our "inbox" it just became untenable.  Whether it has served "their" end of things (gathering statistics, etc.) I don't know. But I hope so.
      
      IF the platform had performed as expected, I think it would have been a happy marriage. Unfortunately the Jive platform has not served us in the community at all well because of it's instability. And too, because I think there are too many options and it becomes difficult to get around the site, let alone figure it out. Smokers who want to quit need the easiest possible way to communicate and find answers. They're already struggling, so it's important to have an ease of communication, not only in connecting to the community, but to resources available.
      
      My 14 cents worth on this March night of 2020.
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      - MarilynH @ Giulia on Mar 29, 2020 9:04 AM
        I agree with you Giulia 100% on everything you are saying especially when it comes to the new quitters that are struggling and especially right now for everyone no matter where we are in our quits we need to be able to connect with one another without all of these glitches this Covid 19 pandemic is really playing havoc with of us so I'm hoping the tech savvy people can get some things straightened out for us hang on tight everyone to the best gift that any of us will ever give ourselves which is the gift of LIFE.....
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Barbscloud Mar 29, 2020 8:26 AM
Been going on for a long time.
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