Is it okay to smoke a little when using the patched?
Hello-----you will get to know all of us if you stick around (and I hope you will). There is an Elder on here (ELDER-= long time quitter) who had a saying when I first came on that I LOVED and always remembered..................................
If you are quitting smoking, but are still smoking, you're doing it wrong.
Again-----hope you stick around this site. The support here is incredible and we have a good time too.
Welcome to EX----we are all here for each other.
Hi and Welcome to Ex’s ... I have never used a patch, however if I were you I would read what it says on the package about smoking and using a patch.
Welcome Powerman4516! Please follow the directions you received with the patches - thank you.
I did not use the patch but I do not think it is wise to smoke at the same time as you have it on. Pay attention to Sootie. Education about this addiction, support from others who have been there, and your own commitment will get you through anything. I suggest that you read a couple of blogs by jonescarp.aka.dale.Jan_2007 that really helped me...What To Expect In The First Four Months and
My Welcome To New Members (12+ Years Of Watching) You might also really like a blog by Youngatheart.7.4.12 For Our New Years' Quitters (and community members, too)
Welcome to EX, I hope you will take advantage of the advice and the suggestions and that you will read everything you can about nicotine addiction.
hi I believe you shouldn't smoke at the same time as wearing a patch it will affect your heart. good luck and welcome!
I forgot to "credit" the ELDER----sorry Dale-----you can find him jonescarp.aka.dale.Jan_2007
Hi there and welcome. I was a patch user. I absolutely would not smoke while wearing the patch. Nicotine overload! Get some licorice and when the cravings hit, munch on those.
Welcome to our community!
Once you start with the patches, it should be AFTER you make the decision to stop smoking. Continuing to smoke makes their use null and void. You also may be getting an overload of nicotine (a cigarette is about 1 mg; add the mgs. of how many you smoked to the mg of the patch you are using - they are absorbed differently, but you get the idea!)
The important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read. You can search for it online or at your local library. Here's a link to a video here on the site which describes nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be. You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmoking.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance.
The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced. Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit. If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T. You need to distract yourself through any craves. You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game. Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time. You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits. Get busy! Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?" Then DO it. You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do. Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!
The correct answer is No. You can proceed to the head of the class. Welcome to EX Powerman. You have come to the right place to get support to quit smoking. First things First. I am a firm believer that education and preparation is the key to a successful quit. Sounds like you are just jumping in and that is okay too. Start first by educating yourself on addiction to nicotine. Foundation For A Successful Quit this blog will give you a jump start. Also, it is advisable to read Allen Carr's Easyway to Quit Smoking which can be found on pdf on the web. Another good site to get info is www.whyquit.com. There are several articles to read. Nicotine 101 and Freedom From Nicotine My Journey Home. If you have any questions you can do a search with the magnifying glass type any key words and research. If you have any questions just ask and give up the opportunity to respond. To learn more about quitting go to My EX Plan | BecomeAnEX to get help on navigating the site go to. Community Help. Again Welcome, there is more to come.
Essentially, you can, but you are defeating the purpose for the patch. I did that before I committed by cutting down on cigs so the nicotine intake was the same. If you are using the patch AND smoking the same you would be looking at an overdose possibility. I dropped the 3 cigs I was smoking for lozenges in tough times. I’m not sure what you are trying to accomplish because you can’t say you quit. You are still a smoker. As has been drilled into me here (thanks for that everyone) the only thing going into your lungs should be air. I’ve read studies that even 1 cigarette causes more damage. So I’m baffled. What are you trying to actually do? I’m on the patch combo, so I’m not nicotine free, but I am free of the toxins they add to make it more addictive, and unless I cave I can at least say I’m a non smoker.
Hi there and welcome! I'd read what the package of patches says, but you're doubling up on the nicotine if you smoke and use patches. I wouldn't do both myself.
Congrats on making the decision to quit. Looking forward to getting to know you better.
Congrats on deciding to quit. All these wonderful people have given great advice. I love what Sootie said. And please remember, NOPE NOT ONE PUFF EVER!! Hang in there and come here regularly!!
Although logic and wisdom dictate that using the patch while smoking is not the wisest thing to do, and I certainly wouldn't recommend it - apparently the FDA (for what that's worth) says it's ok to do so.
"Many smokers need to experiment with different NRT options before finding one that works for their individual needs. NRTs are considered safe enough that multiple methods9—for instance the patch and the gum—can be used at the same time, and you may start using NRT prior to quitting cigarettes.10 " Quitting Smoking: Closer with Every Attempt
Another article on the subject from 2013 in the LA Times:
"Millions have worn the nicotine patch, chewed the gum or sucked on the lozenge as a way to wean themselves off cigarettes. But millions more have ripped off the patch or spit out the gum or lozenges because they slipped and smoked a cigarette, and believed the warning labels that suggested the combination was dangerous.
Don't worry, the Food & Drug Administration said Monday. Keep using the patch, gum or lozenges and keep trying to quit, even if you're still smoking: there's no danger to using both, at least for a short period.
The new directions to quitters amend warning labels that nicotine-replacement therapies have carried on their labels since they were first introduced to the U.S. market almost three decades ago. Those labels cautioned consumers not to use nicotine-replacement products if they continued to smoke or chew tobacco, and urged them to stop smoking or chewing tobacco completely once they began to use the nicotine replacement product.
Those warnings, the FDA said Monday, aren't necessary anymore in light of new data on nicotine-replacement therapy's safety. Smokers who slip up and smoke while wearing the patch or chewing the gum shouldn't discontinue their use of nicotine-replacement therapy -- a move that could derail their efforts to quit, said the FDA. They should continue to use them and keep trying to quit."
If you read the instructions on Nicoderm CQ, for example, it says:
"The whole reason to use NicoDerm CQ is to quit smoking. Once you’ve made the decision to quit, you should choose a date to stop smoking and start using NicoDerm CQ that day. It is okay if you slip-up and have a cigarette. You can still continue your quit attempt and keep using NicoDerm CQ as directed. Just throw away your cigarettes and get back to your quit plan. The FDA has determined that there are no significant concerns with using NRT products like NicoDerm CQ at the same time as another nicotine-containing product like a cigarette. Frequently Asked Questions | Nicoderm CQ (emphasis mine)
There are a lot of very wise quitters on here. Most suggest it's not a good idea to smoke while on the patch. Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you should. I would encourage you to pay attention to them.
I’m so glad you posted this Giulia. People do need to be aware of too much nicotine, but those that become experts on quitting, they are not medical personnel. I had checked this out before I quit the cigs and used patches. 3-4 cigs a day did not pose a risk. You are right tho, because you can doesn’t mean it is a wise choice.
I hope Powerman replies so all these helpers had more of an idea of what he was doing and why.
Welcome to the Ex. Seems to defeat the purpose.
In my opinion NO. Quitting is Not one puff ever. Otherwise it’s just cutting back. Plus I’m not sure medically you should smoke with the patch. Let us help you quit
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