I was wondering is it a slip if u puff on an e cig?
In my opinion, if you are puffing nicotine you have relapsed if you quit. When did you quit? Do you have a plan? My EX Plan | BecomeAnEX Please read the suggested material in order to educate yourself about nicotine addiction. There are some very easy reads on www.whyquit.com. Freedom from Nicotine the Journey Home and Nicotine Addiction 101. NOPE not one puff ever. will keep you from questioning whether you have slipped or not
I chew nicorette is that a slip ? Does the quit start when u are totally off nicotine or when you stop smoking ciggs ?
Sorry, you are confused. Chewing Nicorette gum is an NRT which is not puffing which is not a slip. Puffing is when you are inhaling and exhaling SMOKE
You decide. Everyone here will have their take on it. Some of us , like me, have to stop the behavior first. So I am on NRT. You will have to decide, what is best for you.
In the end you will have to decide what you are doing, want, need, and commit to. Lindarivera
Not sure how to answer that, some people use e-cigs as a support method for their quits...if you are puffing on an e-cig because you are trying to stop yourself from smoking, I can't say that is the WORST thing that could happen but I worry that the e-cigs are showing increasing evidence that they, too, are addictive. If there is no nicotine in the solution, you would just be imitating the hand to mouth movement and you can do THAT with a straw. It's a journey and it is NOT easy but the farther away you get from nicotine, the more progress you make in your recovery.
There are many opinions here in answer to your question. If you are recovering from pneumonia and might have COPD, I would not recommend you inhale unknown chemicals that are in the vapor. If you have nicotine in the vapor, you will continue your addiction to it. The jury is still out on whether it is safer than cigarette smoking. If you are using it only as a truly last resort, sparingly, with very little or no nicotine, and you have a plan to wean yourself from it, I suppose it is better than tobacco.
The important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read. You can search for it online or at your local library. Here's a link to a video here on the site which describes nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be. You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmoking.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance.
The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced. Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit. If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T. You need to distract yourself through any craves. You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game. Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time. You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits. Get busy! Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?" Then DO it. You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do. Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!
Your right it was a slip! I hate failing but when it comes to ciggs - I fail often - and that’s why I might have copd .
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My honest opine skip the E cigs. I got ghastly sick from them for 6 months.. Also have COPD!!Please stop the E. Many Blessings Kim
I considered being quit the first day I did not smoke a cigarette.
The 2 weeks of Nicotine patches and the e-cigarette were my tools to help the first weeks of the quit. I was using an e-cigarette and decreasing the amount of nicotine, intending to stop at a certain time. That was all good, but emotionally I was a mess, crying all the time. I came here, I started learning about the quit, and Dale said: "to me using an e-cigarette is just smoking with a battery"; I was upset because in my mind I was using it to decrease the cravings, and eventually intended to stop that. You know what? The day of his statement I packed away all the paraphernalia of my e-cigarette and have not use it ever since.
If you were smober, using no quit aids, and now you have used the e-cigarette I would say it is a relapse, and you should start counting the days again.
But as others said before me, it is all up to you. All our quits are different, and if you don't want to turn the clock back after smoking an e-cigarette, so be it. It is your quit, and you decide!
Welcome back anyways!
I don't think the question is really about slips but rather......
How long were you not smoking cigarettes?
Were you using an NRT? patch? gum?
Or were you going cold/smart turkey?
Because if you were not smoking and not using nicotine for several days, going to ecig with nicotine is a step backward.....want to call it a slip, a relapse whatever....it's backward. Because nicotine from smoking is completely out of your system after several days......most say three but whatever it is.....once the nicotine is out, it is time to try to adjust to life without it.
Now---if you chose to stop smoking with an NRT (patch, gum, lozenge) that's NOT a slip......it's a way to assist with a quit. Nicotine is not then completely out of your system because the NRT is giving you a low dose. And I guess an ecig might be seen as that also (although my PERSONAL OPINION on that is......you don't want to keep putting foreign things in your lungs!).
My point? If you haven't rid your body of nicotine yet, puffing on an ecig couldn't be seen as anything but another aid towards your total quit of nicotine. BUT-----NRT's aren't something you "go back to" after several or more days of no nicotine. They are there to wean you off of niccotine. Once you are weaned off of nicotine and then you go back......I just think it's a short step back to cigarettes.
This is ONLY my opinion.........others probably have differing opinions and your quit is yours.
Do YOU feel it was? Then the answer is yes. I think you're asking because deep down in your heart of hearts you know the answer. Otherwise you wouldn't need to ask. Yes? Trust your instincts.
If it were me and I quit smoking and I then went out and bought an e-cig, I personally would feel it was a slip. For others that would not be the case. The important part to think about is: If it leads you back to your addiction - then it was not a wise choice.
Part of this journey is coming to our own personal truths regarding this addiction and our relationship to it.
The only thing that really matters is that you conquer it. In whatever way you can. And part of your homework here is to decide, through education and experimentation, what works - for you.
In one way I think the minute we allow that question to have validity in our quits (is it a slip to puff on an e-cig), we have opened the door to the slip and thence to the relapse. Until we really accept that smoking and it's alternative isn't a viable option in our lives - we will still be clinging to the hope that we can do this without penalty. I've come to believe that inhaling anything other than plain old air, is probably not the wisest of options. As I all too often say to husband. "Do what you think best."
One day I will, maybe be as wise and equinamous as you are today!
Yes I have been using a patch and the gum !
Succeed or fail. I hate the options! I hated quitting--but that was over five years ago. And while I was quitting I forgot the most important part of my quit---that as a smoker, I didn't want to smoke anymore. If you want to be a quitter, then you have a gazillion options/support on how to get there. But quitting is done one day at a time. Keep coming back and welcome to EX.
That is so true ! When I was smoking all I ever wanted to do was quit - I was embarrassed to have to
Leave an event to smoke , or smell like smoke - or die from smoking !
Then I got phnuemonia and I have to quit ! I’m in the hospital for 5 nights - 6 days and I’m very sick - can’t smoke !
Come home and I haven’t smoked in 29 days! And now I hate the quit - I hated smoking but I hate the quit ! I’m just a freak
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Good to hear from you!!! Now I look back and chuckle---I'm one who always had to go under the fence or over, but not through the open gate!!!
These days I can look back knowing that I haven't smoked over 40,000 cigarettes---and there isn't one of those I wish I had smoked. I've saved 15,000 bucks and counting. And I've given myself time and space to relearn life without the smokes--something I thought I couldn't do.
Yes you can, one day at a time.
Linda, you are not a freak. That is how addiction works my friend. Especially because it wants to drive you crazy or at least think it can. Once we get some kind of handle on it and have been away from the nicotine and have been able to move far enough away to see that we can QUIT, we come back to our senses. WE remember we have the power, it does not. Hang in there honey! Stop the Stinkin' Thinkin'!! Hugs to you, Laura
I think it is sorta up to you. I feel if I smoke a cigarette, I would have slipped and must start my quit over...I think you need to re-evaluate why you are still puffing and perhaps you need to go through all the steps on Ex and set that quit date. Just don’t beat yourself up, sometimes it takes many try’s for the quit to stick. Colleen aka sweetp
I feel the day you quit smoking, with or without NRT, is your quit date.
If you did not smoke it is not a slip. I agree that puffing on an e-cig is not a good idea. One of the difficult things in quitting is unlearning the hand to mouth thing. You are doing great. Carry on.
One our members says
My new motto after I quit 11 days from now .
Keep up the good work! One puff is not a failure. (in my opinion)
Happy nNew yea
E-cig can caise face cancer also
Any use of nicotine is a problem for me.. e cigs, patches all contain nicotine. Puff or not
I know lots of people here and elsewhere who have quit using the patch. I used no NRT but I have nothing against the patch or gum...I am on the fence about the e-cigarette, I think it may make it harder instead of easier. I used the mantra NOPE when I first came here...LOTS of people do Not One Puff Ever...others have had great success with "I don't do that anymore" or OldBones-Larry's advice, "One step, and then another, will get you to where you want to be." It gets easier, it is not easy at the beginning and it takes time to retrain your brain so that you are not automatically programmed to reach for a cigarette.
You CAN do this.
Falling on ice.....wearing it under a skirt or a dress is a slip, in my book anyway. Lol...no really. My honest opinion is that of which many have said...this is your quit. As Giulia said "Do you feel it was"?
That answer is Golden to me
Anyway, glad your here and hope you stick around. Much support here. Most importantly though, we all have our trial or rather journey...some are alike some are night and day but we all have the same goal in mind and thats to quit smoking...so we are ALL on your side
Happy New Year and may this New Year bring you a lifetime of freedom from Nicotine
I hated smoking but I hate the quit! I’m just a freak.
You're not a freak. We can hate smoking and hate quitting both at the same time. Because both are true emotionally. It's okay to feel both. Took me a long time to understand that opposite emotions can be true at the same time. And they are our reality and it's ok. Though totally confusing.
Example: One day I'm on a bus in NYC and the bus driver is mean to me because I don't have the correct change or coin, or whatever it was and I shrink into my shell and feel like the lowest entity on earth. And then the next day I'm challenged by some jerk and I stand up and give him what's for. Never understood why one day I could be a meek whimpering creature and the next a champion full of the complete opposite. It was very confusing. "Who am I?" said I. Is the whimp me or the take-charge don't "eff" with me the real me? And then I realized that I was both. The whimp and the champion. And it was okay to be both. I can feel one thing one day and the complete opposite the next. That's who I am. I accept that. I am not one thing, one emotional response all the time. Sometimes I'm strong, sometimes I'm weak. There is no ONE Giulia.
If this makes any sense, then you will accept the dichotomy for yourself. We hate smoking for all the reasons we should hate smoking. We hate quitting because it's tough. But that's just the addiction within speaking. What it really comes down to is that we want to be free of smoking without having to go through the pain of it. If there were not psychological/emotional pain in quitting we wouldn't hate quitting. Right? If we had that magic pill that erased all our habitual smoking memory moments - we wouldn't hate quitting, we'd dive into it. Unfortunately there is no such pill. Yet.
It's ok to hate smoking and hate quitting too. The longer you are on this journey, you will find that you don't need to hate smoking to overcome it, and that hating quitting can morph into loving quitting. My wish for you for the new year is that you allow yourself the necessary time to understand both concepts.
and to recognize the difference!
Perfectly written, G. I hate both too. But there is no doubt which is the better choice. We are such a mix of emotions inside. I hope someday they have that magic pill. What amazes me is people are quite understanding of it when you tell them even if they’ve never smoked. What does that say? Even never users know it’s harder than heck. With a scrambled brain I’ve gotten a lot of understanding dealing with complex issues. I write down absolutely everything now. I transpose numbers dialing. Can’t remember a name for very long on business calls. I haven’t gotten to loving quitting yet. But I don’t miss being as much of a slave to it. It’s going to be a long battle!
The only battle you fight is the one you choose. Choose wisely! You can't win an argument with yourself, so don't have one. You have already made the decision, so now you just need to honor it, every day, every minute if necessary. It will be easier if you take the option of smoking a cigarette off the table. It isn't an option. You don't do that anymore!
Keep going - you are doing GREAT!
Slip or Relapse?
A Slip is not a Fall
Please don’t smoke anything. NOPE
It sounds like you don’t completely want to give up smoking. I got through this by continuing to come to this site, even when I slipped. I did not give up. Now I have almost six months. I rarely think about smoking. When I do, I use the stuff I learned here, “I don’t do that any more!” Or “This will pass!”
Don’t give up! Figure out why you still want to smoke. Why do you hate the quit? Why did you stop smoking in the first place? What do you hope to gain from not smoking?
stAn3 I am SO HAPPY for you, honestly, you are doing GREAT!
e-cigs are just a tool to helpyou quit smoking I used Nicorette gum. for three months the third month was to ween myself off the gum..i haven't smoke for 7 years I quit for my cat
Lindarivera How are you doing?
I’m doing well thank you !
I am really happy to hear that...please know that we care. We want your success for you.
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