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Gwenivere
Member

Withdrawal more complicated

I’m doing a gradual quit with replacements.  I know I’m not getting the level of nicotine I did when strictly smoking.  My concern is from some reading I’ve done is there is withdrawal from the other addictive stuff they put in the cigarettes.  I can feel the withdrawal in so many ways now that I have dropped from 15 to 4 a day.  This isn’t a good time to quit (many emotional issues like becoming a widow, birthdays and holidays coming up alone) but I’m on oxygen so have to do my best.   Any input appreciated.

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Barbara145
Member

I say get off the cigarettes and maybe you can get off oxygen.  Some do.  Actually quitting smoking helps in dealing with stress.  I was shocked when I discovered that about one month after I quit.  Congratulations on your desire to quit smoking.  It is a gift we lovingly give to ourselves.

Strudel
Member

Welcome to the site! You are in the right place for great support! I smoked for 40 years until coming here, learning about this addiction and quitting - over 8 years ago! So - I know you can do this! Congrats on deciding to quit. In my opinion, trying to cut back is difficult. By smoking only four cigarettes you are in constant withdrawal. I would suggest reading the material suggested here and lots of blogs and making a plan. 

One of our members, YoungAtHeart usually is one of the first to greet new members. She provides lots of great information. However, she is out of town right now. So, I have taken the liberty of copying a recent message she wrote to a new member. I will paste it below - hope it will help get you started! Keep reading and keep blogging questions. (Saturday evening may be a slow as far as responses.) PS - I also highly recommend the book she mentions by Allen Carr. 

From YoungAtHeart:

Welcome to our community!
The most important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read. You can search for it or at your local library. Here's a link to a video here on the site which describes nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be.

You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmoking.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance. As well, you should also do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site.

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort. I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another. I do not recommend the e-cigarette for three reasons: 1) the vapor has been compared to the polluted air in Bejing on a bad day, 2) they just provide another nicotine delivery system while continuing the hand to mouth smoking motion, and 3) the batteries can spontaneously catch on fire. . But – any method that you think will work well for you will be best for you.

The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced. Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit. If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.

You need to distract yourself through any craves. You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game. Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time. You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits. Get busy! Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...

The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?" Then DO it. You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!

Nancy

Hope Nancy's great info helps!

Kathy 

Gwenivere
Member

Thank you both for the replies.  I’m not looking for excuses, but this quit was forced on me by a weird lung infection that is finally gone.  It was enough to show me I do need to quit, but I would have chosen a later date to be prepared because of the emotional time of year it is.  At this point the best I feel I can do is at least get rid of the smoke and deal with the nicotine later.  It’s been 40 yeas for me too, so I am amazed I have gotten this low on ingestion.  

virgomama
Member

 If health is a top priority the smoke is definitely a bigger hazard than the nicotine addiction.  One elder here said to trust your patch if that is a tool you're using.  Use it while you gain the skills and confidence you need to tackle the addiction.  This is a great site for information.  Soak it up and you''ll soon have the confidence you need to beat this,  The information in Youngathearts welcome letter is excellent.  I read everyone of them. 

indingrl
Member

WE are all a variety of RECOVERING ADDICTS-with SIMULARITIES TO LOOK FOR-not the differences-i used for 38 years-i tried to STOP many times-many STOPS - NEVER stayed STOPPED-I saw a t.v. commercial to quit smoking-i came here and was trying to stop smoking AGAIN-i was using 50 death sticks a day and i got down to 2-3 a day and then would end up getting a new pack the next day-i get down to 2-3 and the vicious cycle would begin AGAIN-i am a believer in MY Lord Jesus since nov 6-1986-i NEVER surrendered MY nicotine addiction to him-i finally was sick and tired of being sick and tired-i got to 2-3 death sticks AGAIN-while educating MYSELF on MY nicotine addiction-eating healthy-exercising-blogging -etc and still could NOT QUIT USING NICOTINE-so i drop to MY knees and pray- dear Jesus if you dont take these cigs from me i will smoke them until i drop dead in Jesus name amen-thenext morning I was blessed with a COLD TURKEY QUIT-pleasd take what HELPS and let go of the rest to be HELPFUL is MY only aim-thank you!

elvan
Member

I worked today and did not see that Strudel‌ had already quoted YoungAtHeart‌'s welcome....I don't think you can hear it too often.

Ellen

A.N.N.
Member

Hi,

You are getting great advice from many people much further along than me. My teeth and gums are forcing my quit in a way... But I now believe it's just what finally made me stop denying what I always knew... I prepped for about 3 weeks. And I will say that at the end, while trying to "step down" it felt like torture! It was actually less stressful to just quit! I guess the good part about that is that day one felt relatively easy in comparison.

There will never be a good time for us to quit. Just ask our addictions! You can do this!

stAn3
Member

I would encourage you to go to whyquit.com and learn about nicotine addiction.

elvan
Member

Do educate yourself about nicotine addiction, please accept my deepest condolences on the loss of your spouse.  I understand wanting to push those feelings of grief aside by smoking...I smoked for 47 years and stuffed a lot of feelings.  I also did a lot of damage and I am on oxygen at night because of COPD.  I quit smoking over 4 1/2 years ago and I have not regretted it for one minute.  Sometimes, the feelings can seem overwhelming but some of that has to do with the fact that we never allowed ourselves to feel when we were smoking.  You can do this and get healthier in the meantime...stay close to the site, reach out if you need help, know that you do not have to do this alone.

Blessings,

Ellen