anyone on here trying to quit using nicotine vape products?
I can tell you that I vaped for two months before I stopped using nicotine. Vaping helped me disconnect from cigarettes, but I did not consider myself "quit" until after I stopped all nicotine. There are studies now that vaping is not really safer than smoking, so it's absolutely not a long-term alternative.
Welcome to the community!
If you search with the magnifying glass in the top right corner, you can find lots of good information here on vaping. Here is a recent blog about it: End the ENDS!.
The most important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read. You can search for it online or at your local library.
You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmokingonline.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance. You should also do the tracking and separation exercises suggested in My Quit Plan http://www.becomeanex.org/my-quit-plan.php
After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort. I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another. I do not recommend the e-cigarette for three reasons: 1) the vapor has been compared to the polluted air in Bejing on a bad day, 2) they just provide another nicotine delivery system while continuing the hand to mouth smoking motion, and 3) the batteries can spontaneously catch on fire. . But – any method that you think will work well for you will be best for you.
The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced. Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit. If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.
You need to distract yourself through any craves. You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game. Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time. You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits. Get busy! Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?" Then DO it. You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.
Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!
None that I know of. In my opinion, by vaping you are trading one addiction for another. There are lots of new reports coming out about the dangers of vaping - cancer and lung damage are two that I can think of off the top of my head. Do some research. Quitting smoking will be the best thing you will ever do for yourself - do it right! Best wishes!
Many non-nicotine vaps out there. Anything can become a new addiction. Swapping old (cigarettes) for new is quite common. People who start to shop frequently, eating, browsing the web,.... Many of these and more not so good addictions, in the long run.
non-nicotine does not mean it is safe.
I used them very cautiously in conjunction with the patch and lozenges in the early weeks of quitting . I stuck to a very disciplined plan that I actually wrote down because I did not want to trade one addiction for another I wanted my freedom back . I never invested in one of those vaping kits I simply used the lowest nicotine disposable e-cigarettes . It worked for me but as I already said I was very careful about how I used them and I got off of them quite easily the patch was my main NRT.
I didn't use vaping to try to quit, but I did vape when I was a smoker. When I quit, I gave both up. By vaping, you are still holding on to the psychological addiction (hand to mouth, etc) and that is most of the battle when quitting.
A little advice - bite the bullet, quit the entire habit and use the EX community as your greatest tool for support. If can do it, anyone can. I was a 30+ year smoker and it was my best friend and worst enemy the entire time. By vaping, you never get rid of the "habit".
Good luck to you -- you have a ton of support here!
I hated vaping. I coughed up so much stuff using the e-cig. there's so many additives in the juice. I'd save yourself some money and cut up some straws the length of a cigarette or use toothpicks
Other forms of nicotine replacement are better like gum and the patch and are designed to help you quit smoking and approved by the FDA.
I think the jury is still out on this one. I just do not know, I AM very concerned about juuling and getting young people addicted to nicotine.
no the jury is not out. vaping causes lung damage.
No. No. No. My brother just had 2 vertebrae removed, 4 ribs removed and 1/2 of his lung. It is called an en bloc treatment for lung cancer. He was a vaper. Now in hospital, he is on nrt patches.
OMG karenjones this should be a blog in and of itself..vaping scares me because of some of the things I have heard..."popcorn lung"...the devices exploding...the KIDS getting addicted to nicotine and using that device called a Juul to actually get nicotine hits while they are in CLASS!
I hope that your brother recovers...as someone who has two broken ribs and degenerative disc disease...I can only imagine the pain he must be in right now. I also had half of BOTH of my lungs removed...for emphysema, not cancer, at least not yet.
Thanks for sharing this but PLEASE put it out there so more people see it...the last response to this blog was a month ago.
I am so sorry karenjones - prayers lifted - gentle hug❤
Prior to quitting smoking for good, I made three attempts to quit by switching over to vaping. I initially thought it was great because it didn't give you that nasty cigarette smell. I soon started to suspect that I may have been consuming more nicotine this way than by smoking. It lured me into a false sense of security and I think I was vaping more than when I smoked. I started getting headaches and feeling pretty bad, even worse than when I was smoking. It scared me quite a bit and I stopped vaping then.
Based on my personal experience, I would highly advise against trying to quit smoking by vaping. If you want to quit via nicotine replacement therapy, it would be best to use a method approved by doctors.
In the addiction treatment world vaping is considered an evidence-based tool for smoking cessation, and there is research to back this up. It is not safe, just 99 times safer than smoking. While total abstinence is clearly the best way it is not the only way, and harm reduction through vaping is saving millions of lives. Why not "live and let live" and "whatever works"?
BTW, vaping does not meet the American Society for Addiction Medicine (ASAM) criteria for addiction.
I'm in agreement with you as far as live and let live. People can do whatever they want.
The statistics I really want to see is how many people who claim to have quit smoking with them are ever able to stop vaping.
The following is from the owner of a vaping supplies website.
(I'm not putting up the link because is a product sales site banned as such on this site but anyone who wants the name of the site can pm me.)
Risks with VapingMy advice? Don't vape. I'm serious. Yes, I make my living selling vape gear but if you can quit without vaping.. do it. If you need support I'll even talk with you via email. You have an urge to inhale something and need someone to give you encouragement to stay inhale free? I'm your man, hit me up on the contact page and let me know you want to go cold turkey! But if you really want to vape then know the potential risks.
Speaking of risks.. it seems like everything we do these days have risks.Guess what? Vaping is no exception. If you think vaping is safe you are wrong, it is not. The only thing safe is clean fresh air going into your lungs, vaping involves "safe" chemicals like PG and VG and nicotine (yes, nicotine is considered "safe") However, our bodies and especially our lungs are NOT naturally made to handle the amounts of these chemicals entering our airways. VG is a thick filmy substance when you let it settle onto a surface.
Blow some exhaled vapor onto a cleaned smooth surface a few times, then take a clean oil free finger and wipe along where you exhaled the vapor.
See the result? Yep, that's in your lungs.There is a new 2015 study that finds non nicotine vaping can damage lungs located here. I am no scientist and I am also not an alarmist. This report was not a direct study on living, vaping humans but it does show an effect. I tend to take "studies" with a grain of salt as they are often done with an agenda or backed by certain biased sources. However, what I am saying is that there is no way that vaping is "safe". There are reports coming out every week with something new and "bad" for vaping in general.Do your due dilligence, read up on vaping, visit forums, look for studies, and more importantly.. ask your doctor, do not rely on me, this website or anyone else selling you stuff.
I am not simply trying to scare you, I want you to be informed and aware, you should never be under the impression that vaping is a safe alternative to smoking, it is not. The only thing healthy for your lungs and health is clean fresh air. Anything else is going to be at least somewhat unhealthy.
It may be safer when compared to cigarettes but it's also safer to fly in a plane than ride in a car and both can result in an unpleasant demise. The point is, we do not know for sure, there are not enough full studies on it and this is why we vendors are not allowed to claim it is a safe alternative and I agree 100% it is NOT.
If you have made the decision to vape, know the facts as much as you can, you are letting chemicals not ordinarily found in your lungs to exist, by that very acknowledgement you understand that it is not "safe".
When you purchase something from DiscountVapers or any vendor you must do so with this in mind.But I can promise you one thing, I will never knowingly sell you something I know specifically to be directly harmful.
These risks are not just about the eliquid either. All vendors buy from China, we all know the track record they have. We sell what they produce and sell it with the knowledge of only what they tell us.
Do we know if the plastics they are using are safe?Do we know the silica wicks do not contain fibers?Do we know the machine oils have been cleaned off?Do we know they are not purposefully putting in harmful materials?
No. We do not, not 100% anyway.
What I am telling you is this... Vaping is a risk, a risk you must go into with your eyes open. Smoking kills for sure, we know that, we do not know what vaping does. Please keep this in mind. If you are unsure, do not vape.
Concerns explode over new health risks of vaping | Science News for Students
I've never heard of sores that don't heal and cells in the mouth changing??
Yes, vaping is a risk. So is walking home from work. I lessen that risk by driving a car, but that is a risk too. I can lessen that risk by driving a tank home, but for lots of reasons I don't. I take my chances with a car.
Smoking was definitely killing me. I have lowered that risk by 95% by switching to vaping. Not safe, just a lot, lot safer.
My last 4 doctors have told me to take an 81mg aspirin every day to help prevent a stroke, heart attack, and/or cancer. The FDA says this is too risky and does not approve of the practice. Who should I trust here?
"Walking home from work" Blah Blah Blah Blah What a TERRIBLE analogy!
Choosing to do something you KNOW may be doing damage to you versus getting hit by a car?
YOU ARE REALLY REACHING THERE, reaching for the stupidverse
my brother who vaped is now undergoing chemo for lung cancer. last month he had 1/2 of a lung , 4 ribs and 2 vertebrae removed. but you carry on vaping if you feel you must, you ole nicotine addict.
Yes! I'm on Day 2 of quitting vaping!
CONGRATS 2 DAYS!
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