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Need help from ex vapers

New here, looking for help.  Former smoker, switched to vaping to stop smoking 6 years ago. I got down to 6mg and been vaping like crazy since.  It has a horrible effect on my heart and blood pressure, and some other medical issues came up that I believe could be related.  I don't know how to quit.  It's so much worse than cigarettes as far as being addicted.  I'm not even 24 hours in quitting (for the 3rd time in two months) and I'm depressed, in a rage, I feel foggy and confused, I want to cry, I have a horrible headache.  I'm using gum but it's almost making it worse.  And this is why I can't quit.  HELP!  

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sweetplt
Member

Hi and Welcome to Ex’s

You may want to check out a group we have here at Ex’s...E-Cig and Vape Quitters and Users 

That being said...you can do this...we have seen many capers here quit...Unfortunately, you traded one addiction with another...might I suggest you read at My EX Plan | BecomeAnEX ... it will help you to get some grounding on your quit...just replace smoking cigarettes with vaping.  Also, keep in mind that this journey is two ~ fold quitting the physical addiction of nicotine and the mental (getting past everything in life we smoked through)...planning what we will do instead of vaping, smoking, etc...(Drink water, bite into a lemon, pray, take a walk, etc.,). Here is a list to help you.../blogs/Maggie_quit_8-1-2010-blog/2012/03/19/100-things-to-do-instead-of-smoking?sr=search&searchId=c... 

Take the negative thoughts out and replace them with “one day at a time”...we are here for you...~ Colleen 328 DOF 

YoungAtHeart
Member

Welcome to our community!

Here is a blog written by one of our successful vape quitters:  https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/e-cig-users/blog/2019/10/15/i-love-being-an-exsmoker-exvap....  I will mention him here, too, so he will be informed of your need to speak to someone who has been successful:  Exvape 

Although primarily a smoking cessation site, I have seen a huge increase in the number of people coming for help to break free from vaping. Research suggests nicotine may be as addictive as heroin and cocaine. Here is a great article with information about the products: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/vaping/vaping-101-what-know-about-e-cigs-addiction-illnesses-n1054981... There is further information here: https://www.becomeanex.org/quitting-e-cigarettes and here; https://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/impact-of-e-cigarettes-on-lung.html .

E-cigarette users can get more nicotine than they would from a tobacco product — extra-strength cartridges are available, or the e-cigarette’s voltage can be increased to get a greater hit of the substance. I understand some pods equal the nicotine in a pack of cigarettes. Because it is available to you most anywhere, anytime, I believe it might be more difficult from which to break free than tobacco products - but it CAN be done!

Nicotine addiction is nicotine addiction - no matter the delivery device - and how to beat any of them is about the same. Every time you read :"cigarette" in the information I will give you, just sub "Juul" or “vape,” or “device.”   The one thing different I would recommend is that you first start to reduce the nicotine content of the pods.  Start with a lesser amount in, like, one in every four, then three, etc. until you are only using the smallest amount, or reduce the amount of nicotine in the pods over time That way the physical withdrawal should be more manageable. You might find useful information, as well, here: https://truthinitiative.org/research-resources/quitting-smoking-vaping/quitting-e-cigarettes.

I recommend that you educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind To that end, I suggest Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” . Vaping was not a concern when this was written, so you will need to sub “vape”as necessary. This is an easy and entertaining read which can be found online or at your local library. If you do nothing else to get ready for your quit, please do give this a read. Here is a video to inform you further about nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be.  One ex-vaper told me they found this book invaluable in their quit success.

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort after you have tried to delay and distract.   I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  You need to start out with a plan to reduce use of them over time - which the patch does by decreasing the dose contained in them..  For the gum, you can start by cutting each piece in half, then in quarters, then sub regular gum of the same flavor in between, adding more and more regular gum.  For the lozenge, you need to start subbing a mint in between to begin, increasing the number of them over time.

It will be informative if you do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site. As you track each device use, note its importance, and what you might do instead. Put each use off just a little to prove that you don't NEED a puff just because you think you do

The idea is to change up your routines so the vaping associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from where you vaped. Maybe switch to tea for a bit.  If you always had that first puff with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to vape so the view is different. Take a different route when you are out and about so you aren't driving by your vaping supply shop. Take a quick walk at break time instead of vaping.


You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that vaping thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time.  You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits.    Get busy!  Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of vape if you need some fresh ideas:
 https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...
The conversation in your head in response to the "I want to vape" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!


 Nancy

Barbscloud
Member

Welcome to the Ex.  Vaping or smoking, they're both nicotine addictions.  We're here to support you.  Just reach out if you need help.

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indingrl
Member

Welcome - education is the key to - YOUR NICOTINE ADDICTION - congrats on non smoker living - gentle hug

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elvan
Member

Addiction IS addiction and recovery is not easy, it has to be taken one day at a time, one FEELING at a time.  If you are having symptoms from vaping, it is DEFINITELY time for you to quit.  It is not worth the damage that you may be doing, the damage that may be irreversible.  Education about the addiction, support from others who have dealt with or are dealing with it, and your own absolute commitment not to vape, NO MATTER WHAT will make all of the difference in the world.

Have a plan, figure out your triggers, the worst to the weakest and plan what you will do INSTEAD of vaping if/when you experience a trigger.  Replace your behavior with NEW behavior and believe that you CAN do this, it IS possible.

Welcome to EX,

Ellen

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Thank you all!  I saw somewhere a book by Alan Carr was mentioned.  I started in on Sunday.  I noticed the more I read, the less and less desire I had.  I would go hours and forget to vape.  Now the urges hadnt completely gone, nor had I stopped 100%.  But I had cut down more than 75%.  Today, I had one puff this morning, and the burning coil was disgusting!  I left it at home!  It is the first time in 7 years my vape rig hasn't been with me!  I'm taking this hour by hour, small victories.  Thank you all for the kindness and support!