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Roj
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Easier to cut down before quitting?

Wondering if anyone cut down before their quit date? Thinking it will do one of two things...prolong withdraw during the cut back time or will help when I finally quit....trying to make this as painless as I can for EVERYONE...

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sweetplt
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I cut down so much that I was only smoking about 3 cigarettes every few days...it helped me along with doing the work here ... planning, preparing, reading, etc., no matter what though, it is rare not to have withdrawal... so even cutting down, I still went through withdrawal...Colleen 298 DOF 

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Roj
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Thanks, just hoping my pets and husband can survive

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YoungAtHeart
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Welcome to our community!

I did not find cutting back to a specific number each day to be helpful.  It made me think about smoking ALL the time, and had me bargaining with myself far too many times, like, "if I have an extra now, maybe I can go to bed earlier tonight to make up for it," or "I can just add one in now and not smoke as much later," etc.  It does help to put each one off a bit while getting busy doing something else.  You can gradually cut back that way.    If you get down to 5 or less a day, it's time to just quit because you will be keeping yourself in constant withdrawal.  When you quit, you will go through that, but then it will be OVER!  It will be informative if you do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site. As you track each cigarette smoked, note its importance, and what you might do instead. Put each one off just a little to prove that you don't NEED a cigarette just because you think you do.

Here is a letter to your family that you might find helpful:  Letter to a Loved One 

The important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read. You can search for it online or at your local library. If you do nothing else to get ready for your quit, please do give this a read.


 You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmoking.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance. Here is a video to inform you further about nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be.

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort after you have tried to delay and distract.   I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  You need to start out with a plan to reduce use of them over time - which the patch does by decreasing the dose contained in them..  For the gum, you can start by cutting each piece in half, then in quarters, then sub regular gum of the same flavor in between, adding more and more regular gum.  For the lozenge, you need to start subbing a mint in between to begin, increasing the number of them over time. I do not recommend the e-cigarette for four reasons: 1) the vapor has been compared to the polluted air in Bejing on a bad day, 2) they just provide another nicotine delivery system while continuing the hand to mouth smoking motion,  3) the batteries can spontaneously catch on fire and 4) you can become addicted to that and it has not yet been proven safe .
 

The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit.  If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.
 
You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time.  You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits.    Get busy!  Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
 https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...
The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!


 Nancy

Roj
Member

Thanks for your input, just thinking about cutting back is stressing me a bit...gonna pull out 5 cigarettes from my pack tomorrow but I can totally see the bargaining thing will happen...going to read as much as possible on this site between now and my quit date...

YoungAtHeart
Member

If the bargaining thing starts to happen, ditch the number per day challenge and just try to put each one off a little.  That should, over time, easily reduce the number you are smoking.

sweetplt
Member

Everyone is different Roj I cut down, but for a few years I was no longer a daily smoker...that is why everyone needs to make the unique to their circumstances...

Barbscloud
Member

It actually worked for me this time.  I used Webutrin and nicotrol inhalers and found the Ex before I quit.  I signed up to receive text messages and received them daily for a week prior to my quit.    I extended the time everyday for a week--1 smoke an hour, than every two hours, three hours etc.  I was down to 3 cigarettes the last day.  We're all different.  Not matter method you decide on, congrats on you decision to quit.  Welcome and reach out of you support.

Barb

maryfreecig
Member

Different for everyone. Cutting too far back is not recommended. But if you cut back some, it might help you make your upcoming quit more real to you---like a ---I really mean business---moment. 

Cutting back as a way to become less addicted--kinda doesn't work. But confronting yourself on your smoking by cutting back could rattle your brain in a good way. Stick with Ex. We're here 365 to support all who want to quit, or have quit. Yes you can, one day at a time.

PS. I smoked about about 6 cigarettes for each of the last two days of my smoking. By then, because I was smoking less each day 9-11, I started to breath better and could smell everything more--it made me realize what I was doing to myself just a little bit more.

Barbscloud
Member

Not recommended by who?  Is this based on opinion or fact?

People cope with the challenge to quit smoking in different ways. One common practice is the strategy of simply cutting back with the intention to stop completely at some point. Rather than give up cigarettes entirely, smokers will cut back from, for example, a pack a day to half a pack a day or from 15 cigarettes a day to 10.

Though this strategy certainly reduces the number of cigarettes you're smoking — at least temporarily — it doesn't always get you over that last hurdle of giving up cigarettes entirely. In view of that, it's hard to consider it an effective stop-smoking method. Find out what does work.

Expert Input on Cutting Back

Smoking cessation experts have mixed opinions on cutting back. Pat Folan, the director of the North Shore-LIJ Center for Tobacco Control in Great Neck, N.Y., says that cutting back is generally not a good idea because it prolongs the inevitable and gives you more opportunities to fail. "Cutting back is not recommended because people may experience cravings and withdrawal symptoms, and these unpleasant symptoms may discourage them from fully committing to quitting," she says. "For some, the thought of cutting back is very stressful. Setting a quit date is more effective and actually easier for most smokers who are trying to quit."

Though cutting back may result in less smoking, the reality is that any amount of smoking can still do major, irreversible health damage. "Every single cigarette does damage," Folan says. "The 2010 U.S. surgeon general's report states that there are over 7,000 chemicals in cigarettes, and when someone smokes a cigarette, these poisonous chemicals travel to every organ in the body. Smoking can cause a sudden stroke or heart attack, and even an occasional cigarette is harmful."

When Cutting Back Could Work

Coral Arvon, PhD, the director of Behavioral Health & Wellness at Pritikin Longevity Center & Spa in Florida, has a different outlook on cutting back on smoking. In her view, as long as you have your future "quit smoking date" marked on the calendar, and you are committed to sticking to that day, then cutting back in the weeks or months ahead of that date can be somewhat helpful.

"If you have been unsuccessful quitting cold turkey, this can be a good approach," she says. "Some people need to learn how to cope with stress and change their routine slowly. Quitting smoking is a behavioral habit, so the psychological changes are the most difficult to make. Cutting back will increase the likelihood of quitting."

Statistics from research seem to support Arvon's notion. In a review article that looked at 19 studies of attempts to stop smoking, 16 of the studies showed that cutting back was an effective method for ultimately leading people to quit smoking. None of the studies showed that cutting back undermined a future attempt to stop smoking. This led the researchers to conclude that cutting back can help with attempting to quit smoking.

Making Cutting Back More Effective

Of course, just cutting back isn't the only piece of the puzzle when it comes to quitting smoking. There are still other necessary steps to getting over that final hurdle. Arvon suggests making cutting back part of your overall strategy in the three to four weeks leading up to your final quit date. "During the cutting back stage, you should write on a piece of paper all the reasons you're going to stop smoking, cut them up, and put them into a cigarette pack," she suggests. "During the three weeks while you are cutting back, don't empty your ash trays — instead, place cigarette butts and water and ashes in a visible glass container, as a visual reminder of the number of cigarettes you're still smoking." Also, while cutting back, re-read the reasons you want to quit every night before bed, she suggests.