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TAD6
Member

How did you deal with ambivalence?

Is it ever possible to quit when a big part of you still does not want to? I've fought this for more than 20 years (have smoked for 40), tried all I can think of to try, but it's been a 'fail' each time. I think much comes down to the fact that I want to smoke, and I want it to be ok to smoke (I fully realize what irrational nonsense that is). I know all the reasons to quit, I know how it is affecting my health (and I'm feeling the consequences daily now). How have you dealt with the want-to-quit/don't-want-to-quit ambivalence?

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anaussiemom
Member

Answer to your question YES!  I quit 12 days ago this time.  With aids patch/nic gum.  No cure all for sure.  12 day in I can breathe a bit better.  Actually able to exercise, the last 2 days, wheezing is pretty good, terrible bp issues are doing a bit better.   Today I feel lots of hope.  Tomorrow who knows.?  One moment at a time.  I've done enough damage to my body.  I just said enough!

I  didnt like the thought of quitting one bit.  I sucked it up and did it anyway!  Grab on to lots of tools, you can do this.

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TAD6
Member

So much of this is a mental game, isn't it? Years ago I made it 3 mos. Last year I had several 5-6 day periods of not smoking. Lately I've been smoking like crazy and feeling hopeless. 12 days is awesome--way to go!

Barbscloud
Member

I'm sure you'll get lots of responses from quitters (or your can search the site), from many of use who didn't want to quit.  Most of us have done it for health reasons.  If you read about this addiction, you'll see  we don't want to quit because we're addicted.  This isn't easy.  That's why it's important to educate yourself so you understand what this addiction is all about and prepare for you quit. I want to smoke too, but I know it's going to kill me.   That's the reality we're faced with.   Pick a quit date and spend the time preparing for it.  Yes, there is physical withdrawal from nicotine, but the psychological   part lasts much longer.  That's why this site can help you be successful.  We're here for you to help get you through those hurdles.  It works, so why not give it a try!

Barb

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maryfreecig
Member

I am not a fan of the mental game theory, but that's just my opinion. The addiction so clouds judgement that I think it is unfair to oneself to believe that the only way out is total happy motivation. Quitting the addiction is a process and support can go a long way in making it through, over and around obstacles. Hearing from others about how they experienced nicotine dependency and how they got past it can help you feel less alone and hopeless. 

I quit at the age of 54 (5.7 years ago)--early on I realized that I could not be heroic about it--that I had to accept that a part of me was insanely devoted to smoking (addiction) but that I had to see if I could get over it.

Consider habits that might be viewed as unhealthy--such as a crappy diet. If your only goal was to eat better (calories the same) likely you would not feel too put apon. Quitting an addiction feels far different than being put upon--so most smokers cling to the idea that if they REALLY wanted to quit then they'd feel better about quitting. 

Feeling better comes later (some get over it much sooner, many do not--it takes time). So give support a chance, and time, too!  Yes you can.

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Christine13
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I have this question too, but someone once told me if 51% of you wanted to quit over the 49% that didn't.  Take it and go with it.  I want to stay quit more than I want to smoke!!  I wish you the best.

Sootie
Member

We all have different opinions on this and no one is totally right or wrong........it is just how you reason something out.

For me, I had a long quit of 12 years and then blew it. I NOW think it was because I "stopped smoking" but never quit being a smoker. Semantics I know....but words are important. In that first quit I did "think" I missed smoking........it was just as you said.......I would jokingly say----why can't they make smoking safe so I can continue to do it. I felt like a martyr. I envied people who smoked and wondered why they didn't worry about needing to quit. And----in the end----I smoked.

In this quit, I truly have no ambivalence.......I do not want to smoke! And, if you told me "HEY!!! They made a totally safe cigarette!" I would say no thanks...not interested. How did this change happen? I am not totally sure. But I do think it had to do with self examining the whole process. I started asking myself.........

You "like" spending $8.00 to $16.00 per day?

You "want" to stink?

You "like" that your kids are somewhat ashamed (for lack of a better term) that their Mom smokes?

You "enjoy" needing to clean your house and buy all sorts of smell covering devices?

Finally------the "joy of your life" is to light dead leaves rolled inside a paper on fire and then while still burning put the rolled up paper in your mouth and inhale the smoke into your lungs? That is truly the thing you want to do most?

This self talk worked for me...........I got sick of the "work" of smoking AND the picture of breathing smoke into my lungs over and over became.........simply ridiculous and remains so to me today. I have absolutely no desire to smoke and can hardly believe I once did.

How I wish I had this attitude in my first quit because I would now be QUIT almost 30 years. Still, I'll take my almost 10 years which is what I have now.

Maybe give it some thought and truly ask yourself...............you LIKE this??

Stay Strong.

TAD6
Member

These are the kinds of questions I ask myself, but it helps to see it in black and white from others who have 'been there, done that.' Outside of my family few people even know I smoke--I take great pains to hide it. I'm at a point now where I would love to be a comfortable non-smoker, but honestly I'm afraid of getting there. This is the first time I've tried a group such as this, and perhaps making this a daily habit will provide some of the energy I need!

Giulia
Member

Logic dictated to me that I SHOULD quit.  We can no longer smoke and pretend we are unaware of the potential consequences.  Unless you never watch TV or read, you KNOW that smoking is harmful to your health.  Even if you don't yet experience the negative health effects.

When I became connected to a support site, THAT is when things changed for me.  I learned that smoking wasn't just a "bad habit."  That it wasn't so much I "wanted" to smoke but that I HAD to, to stop the cravings.  The desperate NEED to smoke, wasn't exactly the same thing as WANTING to smoke.  If that makes any sense.  When I became educated about it all, I was then able to separate them in my mind.  

I never wanted to stop smoking.  But I was able to because I finally made the necessary commitment.  I agreed with myself to stop.  I believed I would get to the point, at SOME point, where I would no longer crave cigarettes.  That was the ultimate goal.  I didn't know when that would happen, but everybody was telling me it would so I trusted them.  And I accepted whatever was necessary along the journey.  I said to myself "No matter what, I won't smoke."  

Now I happened to quit for Lent, a very specific amount of days (and a pledge to a Higher Source).  I knew I could quit for a limited amount of time.  And I gave myself permission to start smoking again when Lent was over.  BUT, I also know myself pretty well.  I knew that if I quit for 40 days, there is no way I'd go back and revisit Day One.  I'd been there enough times to understand that if I just hung in long enough, I'd never HAVE to revisit that day.  Actually it's the day before that's the worst (to my mind.)  That was 13 years ago.  

Doesn't mean that I didn't have the same back-and-forth chatter in my head about it all.  I did:  /blogs/Giulia-blog/2014/07/08/a-quit-dialogue-in-iv-acts?sr=search&searchId=95149e5c-7869-4935-86b7-...‌  But I don't believe you have to want to quit in order to do so.  Though it does make it a whole lot easier and more pleasant!  

I couldn't think in terms of "FOREVER."  Forever was just too big, too much of a mountain to have to climb psychologically.  But a day at a time?  Yeah, I could do that.  That made it much smaller, less overwhelming.  I may not have "wanted" to quit so much as I really wanted to never have to go through the process of quitting  again.  THAT desire is still burning strongly.  THAT is my motivation still.  

I still want a cigarette now and again.  Especially after a job accomplished (that 'reward' cigarette).  But it's like wanting some popcorn when I smell it.  Doesn't mean I have to act of that desire.  

I'll tell you this about my journey - in the beginning years I would keep saying, "If I could smoke without penalty, I would."  Kind of like your "I want it to be ok to smoke."   But I've moved on past that now.  The thing that I think we smokers/ex smokers need to keep in mind is that a cigarette really doesn't taste at all good.  https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/community/conversations/blog/2019/05/28/mindful-quitting-techniqu...

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