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Gwenivere
Member

Getting at wits end

I’m now well into my 5th week of the 14mg patches and lozenges as needed.  What I am finding is NOW I want to smoke.  I’m tired of this half ass withdrawl and confused why my body has not adapted in all this time.  Why am I bothering?  I can’t breathe any better.  In fact my pulmonologist put me on more oxygen.  I want to live in the shower from cold sweats.  I want to sleep to escape the extreme depression.  My back is getting so bad that I can barely walk anymore.   The pain was bad before, but definitely more so since this quit.  If feeling suffocated wasn’t so horrible I’d probably say screw it and bail.  Last time I talked to my quit coach they said add more lozenges.  I haven’t because they feel like too much.  Like chain smoking and nauseous.  I was in the drug store and a woman there heard me say something about quitting and said what I hear here.  Best decision I could make.  Wish I felt that because I sure don’t this week.  50+ days, BFD.

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Gwenivere
Member

Ouch.  I’m not an idiot about addiction.

My point was that replacing the cigs with NRT went awry this past week.  Almost like im not using any.  Regardless of your stance on my chosen method (cigs first, then nicotine) my point is my body is getting what it did and I’m baffled as to why it got so intense this week. I was seeking help from anyone that may have had this happen.

anaussiemom
Member

It is ok Jen!  You are hanging steadfast and tough!!  There is support here.  No you are not an idiot!   Steroids and asthma, and inhalers definitely not helping with anxiety. At least for me it would not!! 

You do have support from me and many others.   Keep moving forward like you are.  You seem to have lots of help and support in your life right now which is so good, and very healing.  Your doing great Jen!!


Gwenivere   Kudos to your courage, strength, and hanging on tight.  Hugs and you are not alone!!  Anxiety can make your nerves and imagination work overtime too.  Your doing excellent with all that is on your plate!~!!  hugs hugs hugs

anaussiemom
Member

Perhaps knitting, its a good choice! Deep slow breathing, it will help so much.  I hate doing this. I hold my breath a lot thru out the day, breathing slowly drives me nuts but it helps.

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AnnetteMM
Member

Oh man, I'm so sorry I caused an ouch. My bad!

JACKIE1-25-15
Member

Not much left to say.  I think Sootie‌ along with others has given the best possible advice that can be given.  EXcept, hang tough, stay close do not give in do not give up no matter what NOPE.  This too shall pass. 

Christine13
Member

you are in No Man's Land!  Maybe that's why you are craving more.  I think you have done wonderful to get to 50 days.

Please don't give up on your quit, I have been agoraphobic, in past years, and I hear you on the anxiety thing, and the depression too.  Fight on to live another day!!  I will too.  Don't give up because you are not seeing the benefits, they are there!  Some people need to be on NRT's longer, please try to distract yourself.  

xo I feel for you.

Gwenivere
Member

I was recently reading that you can extend the patches another few weeks if this happens and my doc says fine.  Oh my, it is the agoraphobia thing I worry about.  I’m always glad I do because I had a short stint with that van it’s not living.  I called the Quit coach which was useless.   Frustrated me more with her suggestions.  I don’t call for suggestions, I called wanting an answer for why this is happening.  I just bite my tongue as being disabled being told to get a manicure, pedicure,  exercise don’t go with degeneration of your back.  The silver lining is I can still say now I do not want to light a cigarette.  Thanks, Christine.

elvan
Member

I am so sorry you are going through this, I WISH I had answers but I don't.  I did not use NRT's so my experience is only second hand.  I really want you to stick with this, stay close to the site and I so want you to get better and to actually FEEL better.  I know how frustrated I was that I was not getting better but I did not want to smoke, the whole idea of it terrified me and still does.  I don't even want to be around it.  Honestly, I AM afraid of it, I am not afraid that I will smoke, I am afraid that I have so much damage to my lungs that I would not have a fighting chance against the smoke.  My husband quit smoking over 29 years ago, he just had a chest xray on Monday that showed emphysemic changes...the theory is that it is from all of the time he spent in our burned out house.  I spent MUCH LESS time than he did but the exposure to those burned things would send me into an asthma attack every time.  Smoke is a killer...I realize that are a lot of other things that put us at risk but we are not in control of everything, we CAN control our smoking.  I wonder if you either got a "bad batch" of patches or if, for some reason, the nicotine is not absorbing the way it was.  I guess I would suggest moving the patches to different sites and see if there is any response.  I wish I had more.

Hugs,

Ellen

Gwenivere
Member

Thanks Ellen.  I am moving the patch around.  I’m sorry to hear about your husband.  Hugs back at ya.

I would get off the lozenges and just stick with the patch.  I think what the problem is, is that you're giving yourself 14 mg of sustained release nicotine and then periodically adding more nicotine by the lozenge.  Your brain is going, oh, cool, we're getting more again and you're on that roller coaster of peaks and valleys.  stick with the patch only.  I wore mine for the full 24 hours.  The first couple months I distracted myself.  The first month was the hardest for me.  but I made a list of things I neglected over the years, washing walls, windows, ripping off shelving paper, repapering shelves, taking off wallpaper, washing curtains, rehanging curtains.  Just physical busy work and made mental note of how much time had passed without me thinking of smoking. 

I replaced my ritual of smoking after completing something by chewing on a toothpick.  replaced smoking after meals with popping gum in my mouth.  replaced smoking when frustrated by clicking a pen.  I did all of these the same way for each time over and over.  Before too long, I found myself looking for a pen when frustrated and not even think of smoking.  I was simply retraining my brain.  When I was hit with a really bad urge, I just closed my eyes and did a deep breathing exercise and reflected on what was truly bothering me at the time that made me instantly think of smoking as my solution and did something about it.  https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/general-support/blog/2018/01/17/trust-the-process?sr=searc...  I was the queen of chasing my tail in the first 6 months.  I was the master of trying to find anything and everything to make this simply go away.  When I finally was able to relax and allow it to take its course and all the time it needs and know that this will be a life-long process, but more importantly a learning process, I let go.