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Discuss different approaches to quitting, including medication

JLT022018
Member

Help

Hi all.  I have smoked for 50 years with a stint of vaping (24mg nicotine) for 2 years and then both vaping and smoking for the past 3.  I have tried all the nicotine replacement therapies available (gum, lozenges, patches, nasal spray), welbutrin, chantix (nearly killed me), individual and group hypnosis, and most recently 2 attempts at cold turkey (one right after the other).  I was pleased these past two attempts that I managed almost 2 days without smoking.  Have been using an aromatherapy product to break addictions containing lavendar and geranium; a Smoke Free spray containing lobelia, oat seed, osha root, licorice, passion flower pleuresy root, grindelia, mullein leaf, and ginger; and 0% nicotine vaping.  However, both times at hour 45 I hit a wall that seems insurmountable.  I experienced time distortion (2 minutes felt like 20, an hour like half a day) and an ever growing feeling of fear and hopelessness.  Last night I managed to hang in there for 50 hours (with long bouts of uncontrollable sobbing) and finally went to bed and asleep with assistance from Ambien (not something I usually take).  Awake but foggy around midnight feeling emotionally worse then ever and left the home of a friend I was staying with for her support.  Succumbed and bought cigarettes smoked and went home to bed.  I don't know how to get under, over or through this 45 hour wall that is preventing my success.  And now today I went back to my friend's house and when driving down her street experienced strong feelings of fear and desire to turn around and "escape".  Still feeling hopeless as well as disgusted with myself and smoking again.  Now feel symptoms of PTSD at my friends house as well.  Any advice / suggestions / recommendations are very welcome.

15 Replies
anaussiemom
Member

Prayers being sent your way.  jlt022018
I feel your struggle.

I know an Elder will help you thru this.



Barbara145
Member

Welcome to Ex.  I smoked for 52 years and tried, like you, everything known to man to quit. The good news is that I have not smoked for 4 1/2 years. I used nicotine replacement the gum and patch for as long as I needed them.  I made a promise to  myself that I would never smoke another cigarette no matter what I was feeling, no matter what I wanted, a cigarette would not be the answer.  I came here to this site,  I read everything I could get my hands on.  I blogged my feelings and discomforts here and got so much love and support. I read others blogs relentlessly.  You can do this.  It is so worth it.  It took me quite a while to get over cigarettes but I am over it, totally.      

YoungAtHeart
Member

Welcome to our community!

I am so sorry for your struggles.  I'm glad you are here; we can help!  It sounds to me like you are letting your addictive mind control YOU instead of YOU controlling IT!  Please do the recommended reading, and follow the steps recommended on this site.  I think you will begin to understand why it has been so difficult for you.  I won't tell you it's easy, but with the right information and support, it is doable.  Many people here had many unsuccessful attempts before they landed here - and this site has helped many be successful.  You can be one of them. No aid is going to quit FOR you - but some can supplement your efforts.

The most important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Quit Smoking.” This is an easy and entertaining read.  You can search for it on the net and copies are available in your local library.

 You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmokingonline.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance. You should also do the tracking and separation exercises suggested in My Quit Plan http://www.becomeanex.org/my-quit-plan.php

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort.  I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  I do not recommend the e-cigarette for three reasons: 1) the vapor has been compared to the polluted air in Bejing on a bad day, 2) they just provide another nicotine delivery system while continuing the hand to mouth smoking motion, and 3) the batteries can spontaneously catch on fire. . But – any method that you think will work well for you will be best for you.

The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand. If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.

You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time.  You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits.    Get busy!  Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:

https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...

The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!

Nancy

JACKIE1-25-15
Member

You have come to the right place for a new day and a new beginning.. This is all about you and what you are willing to do to be smoke free. Quitting smoking requires hard work.  It can be challenging at times but you will learn that it is doable if you adhere to NOPE not one puff ever no matter what. 

Start first, by educating yourself about nicotine addiction.  

Education is the key to a successful quit.

Read: Freedom from Nicotine My Journey Home and Nicotine Addiction 101         

Here are the links: http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksAAddiction.html   and http://whyquit.com/ffn/

I also encourage you to read. Allen Carr’s book, “Easy Easier Way to Quit Smoking”.       

 Go to http://www.becomeanex.org/how-to-quit-smoking.php#thl and get started

johio
Member

Hi JIT Welcome to Ex.  I too smoked for over 50 years and your story sounds just like mine. I was a serial quitter with many defeats and along with that came depression that I felt hopeless and that I had failed. But I found my way right here on Ex and if you stay you will do the same.

First off ...stop beating yourself up.  It seems you tell your story as if was filled with shame and defeat......I don't see it that way...I see someone who won't stop fighting and keeps trying. Every time you fall you get up and fight again....Not once have you blamed anyone else or made a crazy claim that smoking is your friend.....or any number of other claims...It takes character to do what you have done....So hold your head up and get ready for the journey of your life. Baby steps.......Just focus on what directly in front of you......don't worry about the overwhelming amount of things around you..because we have your back.  As long as you are here...you are not alone..

                                                       A GOAL WITHOUT A PLAN IS A WISH

So right now focus on setting a quit date...making a plan......learning all you can about this addiction.....You can start right here with "my quit plan" on this site... stay involved here everyday.... Someone will send you  number of links that may help....give this a try...it works

Joe

To me, fear of doing the right thing kept me from quitting for years! And yes, like you I was addicted enough that thinking of quitting would actually cause a panic attack within me. To me, it seems like you might be looking for that magic pill to get you through. 

 I wish I could tell you there was one, but there isn't. A quit has to come from inside because it's our own minds that we have to overcome in the end. You've come to the right place to learn how to cope. And yes! The answer lives within you. Read all you can. Learn about addiction and when you're ready, take that knowledge with you to create a wonderful quit. 

 I look forward to hearing of your success!!

ONWARD TO FREEDOM!!!

Chuck

Mandolinrain
Member

Welcome. I can't add anything because its pretty much all been said.

This site is great. Awesome support and while many different personalities here its even better because you get a wonderful variety / selection to learn from all of us what worked and what didn't work for us.

Take what you need and leave the rest as someone will always take your leftovers.

 Missy

Lisaml
Member

Hi, and welcome. You are in a very good place to start your quit. I would echo the advice given to read, read and read some more. Understanding the addiction is really helping me (day 49) and, just getting lost in reading and blogs is a great and productive time killer too! Very helpful for those difficult times when you need a distraction. 

YOU hold all the power for your health and well being. You can do it!!!!